I myself am not a vegan at all, in practice, though I am familiar with … many of the frames that you can look at meat consumption through, and, correctly, imo, conclude that it is a wasteful, destructive, and morally dubious practice… and I do try to minimize my meat intake, but its fairly difficult when I am disabled, don’t have a car, can’t do significant meal prep due to injuries, live off of disability pay alone, can barely afford to get groceries delivered to me, because no local food banks or charities that I qualify for do actual home delivery.
I’ve been moving toward a lot more shelf stable, basic type stuff lately, rice and beans… but also crockpot soups with meat, spam is fairly simple to cook…, so, yeah, I am not a vegan.
But uh, the ‘if it tries to run away’ metric seems to be roughly where I would land on this as well… I guess I would just the line a bit higher than … a clam… I personally would think that… basically most insects (ararchnids are another story)… from what I understand of their neurology… they do not really seem to be capable of suffering…
I know it can be difficult, specially depending on where you live. I live in what could be considered a privileged country regarding access to food, specially fresh produce an vegan options; since what now are called walkable cities are the common thing in Europe distance is no issue either.
If you can, and I know is a big “if” (price and availability where you live), I would recommend you to try and add textured soy protein to your diet. It’s dry, so it’s light and you can store it for a long time, and it’s really versatile and easy to use.
Your situation is what it is because the system is what it is and individually we can do practically nothing to change it, you do what you can do and you shouldn’t feel bad for not being able to do more. First you have to take care of yourself. /hug
Yeah, I am not only currently in a very, very unwalkable city…
I also literally cannot walk, not much further than uh… half a kilometer, without extreme pain, and that is using a cane and braces.
Fortunately my physical therapy is yielding good results in terms of regaining range of motion and stamina, but it is slow and painful.
That being said, a year ago, I was in a wheel chair.
So the improvements are real.
Hopefully by either the autumn or winter I’ll be mostly back to my previous level of mobility, and able to rent a car or moving truck or something and move to a less shitty area.
I appreciate the answer!
I myself am not a vegan at all, in practice, though I am familiar with … many of the frames that you can look at meat consumption through, and, correctly, imo, conclude that it is a wasteful, destructive, and morally dubious practice… and I do try to minimize my meat intake, but its fairly difficult when I am disabled, don’t have a car, can’t do significant meal prep due to injuries, live off of disability pay alone, can barely afford to get groceries delivered to me, because no local food banks or charities that I qualify for do actual home delivery.
I’ve been moving toward a lot more shelf stable, basic type stuff lately, rice and beans… but also crockpot soups with meat, spam is fairly simple to cook…, so, yeah, I am not a vegan.
But uh, the ‘if it tries to run away’ metric seems to be roughly where I would land on this as well… I guess I would just the line a bit higher than … a clam… I personally would think that… basically most insects (ararchnids are another story)… from what I understand of their neurology… they do not really seem to be capable of suffering…
https://www.sciencealert.com/insects-probably-do-feel-pain-similar-to-how-we-do-scientists-argue
Well fuck, I am generally apparently wrong about that.
Thank you, and again the other replier, for spurring me to give this subject more consideration.
I know it can be difficult, specially depending on where you live. I live in what could be considered a privileged country regarding access to food, specially fresh produce an vegan options; since what now are called walkable cities are the common thing in Europe distance is no issue either.
If you can, and I know is a big “if” (price and availability where you live), I would recommend you to try and add textured soy protein to your diet. It’s dry, so it’s light and you can store it for a long time, and it’s really versatile and easy to use.
Your situation is what it is because the system is what it is and individually we can do practically nothing to change it, you do what you can do and you shouldn’t feel bad for not being able to do more. First you have to take care of yourself. /hug
Yeah, I am not only currently in a very, very unwalkable city…
I also literally cannot walk, not much further than uh… half a kilometer, without extreme pain, and that is using a cane and braces.
Fortunately my physical therapy is yielding good results in terms of regaining range of motion and stamina, but it is slow and painful.
That being said, a year ago, I was in a wheel chair.
So the improvements are real.
Hopefully by either the autumn or winter I’ll be mostly back to my previous level of mobility, and able to rent a car or moving truck or something and move to a less shitty area.