• Zorque@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    How is allowing people to identify as the gender that fits them abusive to women?

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      No one cares what you “identify” as. Identify as a turkey for all anyone cares. The problem is with coerced speech and trying to invade sex-specific places and events.

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        Coerced speech? Invading? Boy that does sound scary.

        You have any other completely imaginary strawmen we should be hypothetically scared of?

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          Coerced speech like how some places are now looking at making “misgendering” and “using the wrong pronouns” illegal.

          Not sure what word other than “invading” you would user for biological men going in to places designed specifically only for biological women?

          Do you even know what a strawman is?

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                1 year ago

                From the (fox news, of course) link:

                A recently passed bill in Michigan could make it a felony to intimidate someone by intentionally using the wrong gender pronouns, according to some legal experts.

                The article quotes only one person, but I suppose “some experts” is just an oversight, and not because fox knows its credulous audience won’t bother reading too closely or critically. Or looking up the “expert” around whom the story pivots. No huge surprise, he’s the founder of a Christian think tank that focuses on legislating Christianity as law. They’re anti-lgbt, anti-abortion, and antivaxx.

                Got someone who isn’t an alarmist bent on violating everyone’s religious liberty?

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                Did you even read your boogey man bill or just take Fox News as gods word? The bill only says someone is guilty of a felony if they cause damage, bodily harm, or threaten a person because of sexual identity. It just adds a protection to people who are being victimize for a specific aspect of their identity.

                As long as you weren’t planning on any hate crimes you can misgender people as much as you want in Michigan. It makes you an asshole, but not a felon.

                If you would like to read the bill you’re parroting bullshit about, I can link you to the actual text of it on Michigan’s website so you don’t have to be scared of going to jail for misgendering someone anymore.

                Again unless you’re planning a hate crime against them. Then you’re n asshole and a felon. Because hate crimes are bad. That’s not a political thing right? Like damaging someone’s property or body is illegal all the time. It’s just more illegal when you do it intentionally because of an aspect of their identity. I mean you don’t think it’s okay to assault disabled folks because of their disability?