If so, was it polled somewhere?

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    “imperial core” isn’t a phrase we made up. It refers to World Systems Theory, a theory of international relations invented by a guy named Immanuel Wallerstein which argues that imperial “Core” countries (think the traditional “developed” or “first world” countries. Mainly the US and Europe) have a particular extractive, colonial relationship with “Periphery” countries (think poor, raw material exporting, rentier states like Kyrgyzstan or Nigeria).

    Then there are semi-periphery countries which are still tied into the imperial core in some way, but have enough sway economically and geopolitically to kind of stand on their own. They have a different kind of relationship to the imperial core, compared to the periphery (these would be the BRICS countries, largely).

    That’s a gross over simplification, but hopefully that answers your question.

    Edit: Here’s a really good explanation of World Systems Theory that goes into more depth

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      Wasn’t aware of this framework, thank you for taking the time to explain it :)

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      To be fair, colonialism is a human trait and it’s been proven in every large society time and time again. You think the current US/UK empire is bad but if you look in your own back yard it’s the same thing with a different spin.

      It is inevitable, humans are destined for this. It’s unfortunate but it’s what we do.

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            Lmao no they’re not. Humans are a communal species, it’s literally what we’ve evolved to be.

            However acting as if behavioral (or even worse evolutionary) psychology can in any way give a definite answer on what is human nature and what is learnt behaviour, is ridiculous.
            There are no factual answers to the question “what is human nature?”

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                Like a Christian deep in the closet talking about how gay people just need to suppress the natural urge all men feel to engage in gay sex, you believe that your internal experiences are universally shared across humanity. Because you are a selfish, deeply evil person, you refuse to believe that there is actually any such thing as a good person at all. You feel smugly superior to the rest of us who refuse to admit we’re all evil, without realizing that not everyone thinks like you.

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                  Well I didn’t say anything close to what you opened up with. I think you’re angry and projecting.

                  I am none of what you say I am, you simply assume I am because I say things that go against your narrative.

                  I may seem smug to you because I can easily reject your claims and don’t feel the need to prove myself to you. But I’m not, you just seem lost and honestly a little delusional.

                  I hope you find what you’re looking for in life.

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        yeah but the thing is other countries’ policies didn’t inspire apartied and the nazis and their holocaust.

        the US’s exterminationist and segregationalist The US did those thing

        Hitler wrote in his diary how good america was at genociding its undesireables, and took it and ran with it

        The United States: world leader in being the absolute fucking worst thing in human history since 1619

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          But that’s kind of my point. The CCP engages in almost identical policies and political strategy. It’s just under a different banner with a different mascot.

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              If somebody looks at you and likes a thing you do, and then goes and commits genocide because they liked that you liked their favorite potato chip, does not make you connected to their genocide.

              You are fabricating connections while denying reality.

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                Hitler literally wrote in his diary how good the US policies of extermination and land settling were, and, quite famously, his basis for Lebensraum: the material basis for the holocaust

                Get the fuck out of here nazi apologist

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                  You know just because we don’t see things in the same (extreme) light doesn’t make either of us a bad person. And I’m no nazi apologist but that move on your part leads me to believe that you’re a child, like literally an undeveloped, immature, angry child.

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        You think the current US/UK empire is bad but if you look in your own back yard it’s the same thing with a different spin.

        I don’t think any non-Western country has enslaved a continent, refused to pay reparations for enslaving an entire continent, and continue to plunder an entire continent of its resources.

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          Japan, China, Persian empire, Egypt, Spain, US, UK, Cambodia, et al.

          History is nasty, our goal should be to learn from it and not repeat it.

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            I’m going to make the bold claim that the Tang dynasty and the Achaemenid empire was nowhere near as bad as the Spanish empire or the British empire and unlike the first two, the second two are still relevant in modern times.

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            Do you seriously think Cambodia “enslaved a continent”? Like, I think Pol Pot was one of the more destructive leaders in human history, but you’re being silly.

            Japan was working on it but only partially did it. China didn’t. Persia? uh . . . I don’t think so. Egypt? No. Spain was part of the overall effort that the US and UK were part of.