Bernie and AOC have a national platform, an energized base, and the infrastructure to gather small donations. Now they need winnable policies to back. It seems impossible in the MAGA-controlled government — unless they turn to state ballot initiatives.

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    The opinion of a worthless cynic is only worth responding to as a foil to demonstrate the inadequacy of that perspective.

    From my perspective, the worthless cynic here is you. You’ve given up on changing the only party that will actually hold any power because changing it is “too hard”. But fair enough, you have different experiences and perhaps give up easier than others.

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      Ah yes. The “I know you are but what am I” defense.

      The only point in engaging with you is to put your cynicism and intellectual dishonesty on display, so I thank you for making it all the more apparent. You claim a cause, but effectively, are arguing for a BAU/ stay the course approach to change. I hope for all of our sake, yours keeps their opinions to themselves for the rest of time, as I advocated for previously.

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        I think what actually happened here is projection. You identified that you are a cynic and decided to try to apply the label preemptively to others. But it’s okay. We all handle things differently. Yours is to give up and point fingers at others for your own shortcomings. Some of us will continue to fight though. Good luck.

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          Right back to the “I know you are, but what am I?” approach to politics.

          Peewee Herman would be proud.

          You claim that “giving up”, when I’m literally the one advocating for action, while you are advocating for “doing nothing different”. Then when I point out your disgusting cynicism, you claim that I’m the cynic.

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            Your approach is to give up because changing the DNC from the inside is too hard and you think you tried once so you’re giving up.

            My approach is to take the hard road but also the only road that leads to actual change and not throwing away my vote while fascists claim uncontested rule for the next three decades because Democrats hurt your fee fees by not making Bernie president that one time.

            That’s why you’re a cynic. You’ve decided to flip the board and not play anymore because you didn’t get your way like a petulant toddler throwing a temper tantrum instead of pulling up your big boy pants and primarying the old guard Democrats so we can actually get shit done. And no they aren’t just going to roll over and let you take their power so you have to fight for it.

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              You are precisely why the Democrats have continuously gone backwards for a decade. Your rhetoric, your entire approach to politics: its why Democrats are a failed project. You are both the source and sink of the failure. You are why progressives need to leave the party. We’ll have more power without the party, if you are going to be the way that you are. We’ll have a better chance at moving Democrats without you in the room.

              And I truly, and wholeheartedly, I appreciate you making it this obvious.

              My approach is to take the hard road but also the road that leads to actual change and not throwing away my vote while fascists claim uncontested rule for the next three decades because Democrats hurt your fee fees by not making Bernie president that one time.

              Bro you have no approach. You are just a clown with no agency, who needs the analgesic of “strategic voting” to wash their hands of the fact that they are part and parcel to why fascism has subsumed American politics.