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If we can kill God, then it wasn’t God that we killed…
The question I get asked by religious people all the time is, without God, what’s to stop me from raping all I want? And my answer is: I do rape all I want. And the amount I want is zero. And I do murder all I want, and the amount I want is zero. The fact that these people think that if they didn’t have this person watching over them that they would go on killing, raping rampages is the most self-damning thing I can imagine. I don’t want to do that. Right now, without any god, I don’t want to jump across this table and strangle you. I have no desire to strangle you. I have no desire to flip you over and rape you. –Penn Jillette
Think of the man what you will, but this has to be the best answer for that dumb question.
I see your logic, atheists. Now apply that to “laws”, “money”, and “The State”.
Laws and the state exist to deal with the people that DO want to rape and murder. Money exists to provide a more convenient way to exchange goods and services.
Laws and the state exist to deal with the people that DO want to rape and murder.
And religion doesn’t? What subject are we talking about again?
Money exists to provide a more convenient way to exchange goods and services.
Is it the most convenient way? Have there been other ways? (Yes, there has, for thousands of years.)
And religion doesn’t? What subject are we talking about again?
Can’t speak for anyone else but I’ve never seen god stop a rape/murder.
Is it the most convenient way? Have there been other ways? (Yes, there has, for thousands of years.)
We could go back to bartering I suppose but I’d rather carry a credit card around than a 60lb sack of grain or whatever people are trading for.
Well, it is important to remember that he’s a professional liar, so I don’t know how true that is for him personally.
“Your religion isn’t the same as morality.” - Britta Perry
Stop being pious atheists
What do you mean?
People always told me that Grimes was super smart, but every time she opens her mouth, it’s some of the dumbest shit I have ever heard. She is the guy we all knew in high school, the one who takes mushrooms and stares at Tool album covers, and expects the rest of us to pretend they are brilliant.
This chick literally wrote an open letter to communists, saying that if they support Elon Musk, he will use AI to bring a communist system.
If she were to ever shut up, it may dawn on her that she is actually a fucking idiot, and we can’t have that, so she never shuts the fuck up.
I think zealot answered that. It seems that people who can’t manage themselves and their worst impulse want to manage others.
I can’t remember who said it but: If you being a good person depends on the fear of eternal damnation, then you are not a good person.
The same god who allows rape and murder as long as you believe in him
I think her argument was that religion offered an easy way to make moral choices.
Welcome to the rise and celebration of immortality. Pornstars, OF, open drug markets\junkies, and general San Fransisco culture.
All of those things are only problematic in excess, and are mostly excessive because of capitalism. Theres nothing immoral about sex or drugs.
The way i understood it was that it’s a difference in organization of society. Some people can find meaning themselves, without needing somebody else to tell them what to do. Some people just need to be told what to do.
Some people find their meaning in telling others what to do.
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Religion provided people with a sense of community. Without it, they’ve been finding community on the internet which has resulted in people believing in all kinds of strange things. Significantly stranger than there being a metaphysical consciousness in the universe.
Religion, while not perfect, often tries to encourage people to be better. Of course religion can be corrupted by politics at times, and we’re certainly in one of those times. But the general concept of people coming together and encouraging each other to be better isn’t a bad thing.
Internet groups are worse than religion, many of them are devoted towards hating an enemy and unlike religion, make no effort to encourage people to better themselves. Religion can often fail at this goal, but most internet groups make no attempt to be better than a failed religion. Case in point: atheistmemes@lemmy.world
Grace for one, not the other. I see.
Switch religion for internet groups in your comment and you’ll be baffled at your hypocrisy.
There are good things that are less intuitive about eg. Christian values such as forgiveness. You get as many chances as you need and are still worth saving no matter what you have done wrong.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Fish
No matter what?
