France manages to get a sub to us before the UK even deigns to comment. That says it all. Merci beacoup!
Well done on falling for the propaganda
Bonjour!
Hijacking the top comment to let people know this isn’t in response to any American threats, this is Naval Group, a French naval defense company, showing off their submarine because Canada is looking to spend 60 billion on twelve submarines. The plans for this purchase were publicly announced on July 10, 2024.
Here’s a French news article about the submarine, seeing as I couldn’t seem to find any sources in English.
I’ll take both reasons as canon, thank you very much
Weird that they specify “conventionally powered” in the Canadian article since this is a nuclear powered sub.
I don’t know if that’s a mistake. It might not be a nuclear sub, just a sub which has nuclear weapons capabilities ( though obviously not this particular sub because it’s still in the hands of a defence contractor ( I hope ) ).
I think it’s because many nations with subs have nuclear-powered vs diesel-powered. Diesel doesn’t have the vast capabilities to stay underwater for months like nuclear does.
This isn’t a show of force, it’s a demonstration for Canada who is planning to buy a number of these submarines from France.
You’re right, thanks for adding context. I’m immediately suspicious when a picture is posted with no accompanying news article, and my search wasn’t turning up any articles, only social media links.
Article is about selling nuclear powered subs. Canada doesn’t need these boondoggles for defense against US, because the mission capability is being months at sea.
Yes, this old news is about a nuclear-powered attack submarine, not necessarily a submarine that can nuclear-attack.
They don’t need attack subs. They need boomer subs. At this point, Canada needs a nuclear deterrent. And I say that as an American who would be in the cross hairs of said nuclear deterrent. Canada should contract with the French for protection under their umbrella until they can build some of their own. The lesson of Ukraine should be that nukes protect small nations from fascist larger ones. Canada could easily end up like Ukraine. It’s not like fascists can’t find a casus belli. Putin was “restoring Russian glory” or some such. Trump would be “finishing the American Revolution” or some other bullshit.
Please, Canada, from a friend of yours to the south, do not take this threat lightly. No one is going to be able to save you if the US decides to invade. The same oceans that protect you will prevent your rescue. The only hope Canada will ever have of being able to militarily protect its borders from the US is a credible nuclear deterrent.
Just please, don’t harden your hearts while you build these weapons of destruction. Don’t close your doors to refugees from the US. As someone who is on the regime’s enemies list, hopping across the Canadian border and begging for asylum is the last chance I might have if things really go bad.
Instead of putting all eggs in France basket, Canada should also approach North Korea, China, and Russia for detente and nuclear deterrence. Flirting with North Korea is best path to get SK and Japan to commit to our auto industry, and decouple from their own US extortion. Taking bids for Russia to take over NORAD sites is more constructive than continuing military cooperation, and shamefully subservient to US defense pacts with Philippines. If Russia is no longer the enemy the US forces us to make, then we are protecting the US from Russia, and they need to pay for that privilege.
US and foreign auto industry must be forced to choose Canada over US. US manufacturing destroyed through export tariffs on materials and energy, and proceeds used to subsidize Canadian manufacturing. Manufacturing/MSFT in Washington and Michigan states must recommend secession and joining Canada, and be covered by our nuclear shields.
I mean, they’re not mutually exclusive. Nobody was about to start openly threatening the Americans, but having French forces around and mulling over defence deals with France sends a signal.
We don’t know what Macron and Trudeau talked about, but accelerating things like this in light of the new reality could well have been part of it.
What’s the point of these submarines if there aren’t nukes on them?
Fake
Could have imagined this happening as little as 3 years ago.
An ally sending a nuclear deterrent into our waters as a message/warning to the US. This normally happens to countries like Iran or North Korea
Still hasn’t happened. This was a sales pitch for a Canadian defence contract.
To be accurate, this is a nuclear propelled attack submarine. It does not carry nuclear warheads and is not what we normally call a “nuclear deterrent”.
JT was just in France as one of his last acts as PM. Mere days later this bad boy shows up in a Halifax harbour. 🤔🤔🤔 Merci a la belle France 🇫🇷🤝🇨🇦
Vive la France!
Jemepelle
Let’s go! France is here to protect Canada!
Na, they’re just finishing the 7years war-round 2
Idk about that. Other commenters have better explanations that aren’t sensational.
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perchance, banana for scale?
It’s there, but hard to see.
It’s a football field, Micheal. How big could it be, a banana?
Whollottabanana!
The previously-mentioned French article says it’s a Barracuda, but I don’t know if that’s a model or a class.
And unsurprisingly, he also decided to offer the Royal Canadian Navy its “premium” model, the Barracuda, rather than the Scorpène.
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Canadian football fields are 100m, so just the right size for us!
CFL fields are 110 yards, which is about 100m. Close enough I guess :)
“Bring it” - France probably
I believe it’s “Le Bring it”
But I’m le tired…
Take a nap zen fire ze missiles!
Don’t tease me!
NOBODY backs an American Revolution like the French!
🇫🇷🦅🎆
Fake
nuclear subs always give me gundam carrier ship vibes
Would a french submarine wear its hat like this:
or like this:
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Asking the real questions
This deserves its own post in !ehbuddyhoser@sh.itjust.works.
The top one looks like he got hit on the head.
Important note: The “Nuclear” in “Nuclear attack submarine” means that it is powered by a nuclear reactor. It does not refer to its armament. An “attack” submarine means it is designed to attack ships and other submarines and these are typically not capable of carrying and launching ICBMs. Nuclear-armed deterrent submarines are called Ballistic Missile Submarines.
Source?
Here’s a French article about it. It’s not a show of force, it’s a naval defense company showing off their submarine in the hopes of being granted a 60 billion dollar contract for 12 submarines that the Canadian government announced last summer.
France
I’m going to guess a shipyard
Fuck yeah.
During a period with seemingly very little good news in the world, I really needed this. Assuming it was done for the optics it conveys, it’s some much needed reassurance that our allies actually have our back. Granted, we’re still absolutely fucked in the short term if the worst happens, it’s still nice to see.
