What was it about and what made you argue for so long? Did you win, did it conclude in anyway?

  • Alice@beehaw.org
    1·
    3 小时前

    I’ve never seen anyone win an argument. What would that even look like? What’s the goal?

      • absGeekNZ@lemmy.nzEnglish
        3·
        2 天前

        Ok.

        Conspiracy theory:

        Autism isn’t real, it is a conspiracy to pathologise otherwise normal human behaviour, to sell vast amounts of pharmaceutical products. It’s targeted at kids, because they are less articulate and can’t effectively argue that there is nothing wrong with them. The really insidious part is that after a while the kids believe it.

  • Devanismyname@lemmy.caEnglish
    9·
    2 天前

    Had a guy that used to find me on reddit and respond to everything I said. It was innocent and funny because it was literally just him talking shit out the prequel star wars to me. Not really an argument I guess. He did it for like 3 years. Stopped doing it about 8 years ago. Wonder what happened to that guy.

  • Fizz@lemmy.nz
    236·
    2 天前

    I had an argument that went on for 8 months in a YouTube comment section. At the start I just left a comment on a ww2 documentary i was watching trolling by saying that I didn’t believe ww2 was real became there was no proof. The argument shifted across many topics since there was now 10+ people arguing about random things. I think we covered the moon landing, communism, the justification of dropping nukes on Japan. I just made up random things and baselessly attacked the validity of the claims others made.

    I think the youtuber ended up deleting the thread because it just disappeared. None of my other bait posts have ever started that much of a shitshow and its disappointing.

      • Fizz@lemmy.nz
        4·
        2 天前

        I was bored on my lunchbrakes at work so I would just troll people in the youtube comments. I also fall for obvious bait because I cant help myself. Its the fedora tipping redditor inside me.

  • otp@sh.itjust.works
    5·
    2 天前

    I had a multi-week long argument with someone on Reddit who was convinced that racism is irrelevant and/or doesn’t exist because it’s a distraction from class warfare or something.

    I argued that yes, the rich are screwing us over, but racism still exists and is bad and you shouldn’t be racist.

    They made responses that were at least 3x as long as mine. They didn’t really ever say anything new, except to say that my points were wrong because class warfare. After they went on a rant in response to my comment to the effect of “it’s still not nice to pretend racism doesn’t exist”, I lost hope with this person.

    I started replying to them by mentioning something they said, then followed it up by copy-pasting some of my previous comments to them. I didn’t even read their essays. I started pawning off my replies to ChatGPT, and they’d reply every time. Unless they were also using an LLM and telling it to include typos and stuff, it looked like they were still vehemently arguing with me/ChatGPT.

    After a few weeks of almost daily replies, I gave a two-sentence reply where I admitted that I wasn’t even reading their replies because I thought their opinion was nonsense and the “conversation” had been going nowhere.

    I didn’t get a reply to that comment.

        • Magnus@lemmy.mlEnglish
          4·
          2 天前

          Are you talking to me? I said that racism was traditionally used as a tool to divide working class movements so anti racism and class war go hand in hand. Trying to have one without the other is a classic way to divide working people against each other. Pretty weird how you read what I wrote and assumed I’m a racist.

          • otp@sh.itjust.works
            2·
            2 天前

            You might’ve missed the word “not” in my previous comment, lol

            EDIT: My apologies if I misread your intention – I’d entertained the idea that someone would try to goad me into an argument on the same topic, so I didn’t get invested in thinking too much about your comment.

            Another commenter clued me in as to what you were probably getting at, and I think we’re in agreement, lol

            • Magnus@lemmy.mlEnglish
              3·
              2 天前

              It’s fine I wasn’t very clear with my reply so I see how it could be misconstrued. You’re clearly still traumatised from the original argument lol.

  • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
    9·
    2 天前

    Don’t know, honestly, but what I do know is that if an argument on the internet lasts more than a couple replies neither party is “winning” in the end, if winning means convincing the other party.

    • tias@discuss.tchncs.de
      4·
      2 天前

      I think the point of these hopeless internet arguments mainly becomes to convince the third parties who read them.

      • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
        3·
        2 天前

        Yep, that’s why I stick with some arguments, but realizing when there’s nothing to be gained is important as well.

  • Jerkface (any/all)@lemmy.caEnglish
    7·
    2 天前

    I’m still having an argument with a particular Peter Sinclair (aka synclap) about the relative merits of the Atari ST vs his App Mac Classic that began circa 1990.

  • folaht@lemmy.ml
    2·
    2 天前

    That the EU was morally better than the US. The posts got longer and longer. I gave up after realizing my latest post would be over 4000 words long.

  • Rose Thorne(She/Her)@lemm.ee
    2·
    2 天前

    A week, the fact that I love the Evangelion manga but don’t like the anime(though I do enjoy the movies. I don’t know what it is), and I genuinely have no fucking clue why I kept engaging.

    I think we just kinda gave up, in the end. There wasn’t ever really a point, it wasn’t even a “thing is bad” argument, it was “I just don’t really enjoy experiencing thing x way” “here’s why you’re wrong for that”.