• FlowVoid@lemmy.world
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    6 小时前

    If leftists ever won a presidential election, then they might have useful advice to others who wanted to do the same.

    But they never have, and apparently they don’t even want to.

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      6 小时前

      So, no interest in trying to represent the working class…

      And also wondering why you think they deserve to win…

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        6 小时前

        If leftists think Trump best listens to the working class, then leftists should start advising Republicans instead of Democrats.

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          5 小时前

          Trump agreed with the working class that the economy is in the shitter. He lied about wanting to fix it.

          Harris declared anyone who thought the economy was in the shitter was hallucinating, and they just need to shut up, and vote for her, because “I’m not Donald”.

          That’s the difference. And Harris’ strategy was a losing one.

          No leftist has any illusion on if either oligarch truly wanted to represent us, rather than their actual constituents: other oligarchs.

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              3 小时前

              I suppose that’s a take… I mean, the Dems could of course lie to the working class, just to win votes. Like they did under Obama, Clinton, etc. Or, they could, you know, not lie to the working class, and actually enact change?

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                3 小时前

                You just told me the difference between Harris and Trump is that Trump lied to the working class, and that’s why Harris lost.

                The only logical conclusion is that you believe lying to the working class is a winning strategy.

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                  3 小时前

                  The difference is Harris lied to the working class too, by stating the economy is doing great. Or, she’s completely disconnected with the reality of the working class?

                  The only logical conclusion is that you believe lying to the working class is a winning strategy.

                  No, that’s your very, very, myopic reading of what I wrote… Especially after clarifying. It’s almost like you’re being purposefully obtuse, or something.

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                    3 小时前

                    The economy is traditionally measured by GDP growth, unemployment, and inflation. All those numbers were good when Harris was running.

                    If you want to redefine “good economy”, that’s on you.