• Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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    11 hours ago

    This is what you initially responded to:

    This implies a fair primary process.

    You’re putting words in my mouth in order to change the subject to one you’re more comfortable with. In this case, the subject you’re more comfortable with is gloating that AIPAC bought you some pro-genocide primary challengers.

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      11 hours ago

      If progressives know how to win elections better than the DNC then why don’t they just win enough elections to control the DNC?

      This is my comment that preceded your quote.

      The subject is: “why do progressives think they know how to win elections better than the DNC if they have never done so?”

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        11 hours ago

        The subject is: “why do progressives think they know how to win elections better than the DNC if they have never done so?”

        To which I provided an explanation. They cannot win elections that the party makes certain they can’t run in. Now enjoy the results of the party’s recalcitrance.

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          6 hours ago

          If they don’t know how to win elections in the face of opposition, then they shouldn’t be giving advice on how to win elections.

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            6 hours ago

            Which applies to the party that lost to trump twice as well. In addition, the general election doesn’t have the party putting its thumb on the scale like the primaries do. If the party deigns to have primaries at all.

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              Democrats defeated Trump once, which is still better than the track record of leftists.

              The DNC has a primary whenever a challenger gathers enough signatures and submits them on time. I realize that can be a high bar for leftists.

              And if you don’t think the GOP unfairly influences the general election, then you need to google “voter suppression”.

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                5 hours ago

                Democrats defeated Trump once, which is still better than the track record of leftists.

                Democrats don’t let progressives win primaries if they can help it. Gloat.

                And if you don’t think the GOP unfairly influences the general election, then you need to google “voter suppression”.

                Which is a problem for centrists too.

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                  5 hours ago

                  Nobody “lets” someone win an election. Progressives need to earn their votes like everyone else. And if they earn enough votes, then they win regardless of what other Democrats think.

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                    5 hours ago

                    Nobody “lets” someone win an election.

                    The party prevents progressives from winning if they can. Every progressive who has won a primary in the past decade or so has done so despite the party putting its thumb on the scale for their opponent.

                    Progressives need to earn their votes like everyone else.

                    It’s weird seeing a centrist say that votes need to be earned after they lost twice by acting entitled to votes.