• I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world
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    6 hours ago

    Can we fucking stop? This is just as pathetic as Dump claiming the crash was because of DEI.

    The crash was caused by the helicopter pilot.

    It had nothing to do with DEI, it had nothing to do with people getting fired. We can hear the audio logs between the tower and the helicopter pilot. ATC did their job correctly. This accident would have happened regardless of whether the firings happened or not.

    People are dead. And both sides are just so fucking eager to turn it into something political. Hey, guess what? Sometimes, shit just fucking happens. Not because of any woke ideology, and not because of the actions of an orange turd, but because humans are accident prone creatures and often fuck things up. The only one to blame is the helicopter pilot and he’s fucking dead now.

    You know how stupid Dump sounds to you when he says it was because of DEI? Pretty fucking stupid right? I mean, DEI clearly isn’t what caused it and you’d have to be either a liar or a complete dumbfuck to make that claim.

    Well… That’s what the right thinks about you all when you try to pin the blame on the firings. It clearly isn’t what caused it and you’d have to be a liar or complete dumbfuck to make that claim.

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      4 hours ago

      I don’t agree at all. Before the crash even happened the controllers sounded stressed. There was absolutely an opportunity for ATC to call out to the helicopter pilot again to clearly state how close they were, but there was so much else going on that no one could monitor the helicopter that closely. When you have a helicopter flying through an active landing path it’s not enough to simply tell the pilot “don’t fuck up”. Why was there a training flight there in the first place? Unless the training was how to fly in the D.C. airspace, it could have taken place somewhere else. There were plenty of opportunities to do things differently so that a mistake from the pilot couldn’t have caused this many deaths.

      In reality, the root cause of the accident is more likely from the airspace being far too crowded and the the lack of enough controllers to properly manage the area. The pilot couldn’t have made the fatal mistake if he was never in that situation in the first place. This is more a symptom of the long term staffing shortage in ATC, but the added stress of the head of the agency being fired, hundreds of their colleagues being fired (or maybe not, no one seems to really know), and the chance that they could wake up tomorrow without a job certainly meant that the controllers had more stress to deal with than just the aircraft in the air. We’re probably just going to have to wait a few months for the NTSB report to fully understand this.

      Trump didn’t directly cause the accident, but his actions very likely could have contributed to it. Aviation safely is built on is built on layers and layers of systems to prevent the conditions for an accident in the first place. At the end of the day, taking a sledgehammer to a federal agency is going to make it run worse, and when the agency in question is the FAA, that means a higher risk of accidents.

    • 𝙲𝚑𝚊𝚒𝚛𝚖𝚊𝚗 𝙼𝚎𝚘𝚠@programming.dev
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      6 hours ago

      This post does not claim that Trump caused the crash. It only says that Trump gutted a key aviation safety committee, presumably because he believes they aren’t necessary (or they slighted Elon or whatever the reason may be), only to have a terrible aviation disaster happen on his doorstep.

      The contrast is what makes this a juxtaposition. It displays Trump’s lack of good judgement, it doesn’t blame him for the accident.

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        5 hours ago

        But the juxtaposition itself is stupid and is only being made in response to Trump’s dumbass claims as some sort of straw-grasping gotcha.

        Imagine I had a roof that needed repairs and I decided to save my money and not fix it. Then the next day a meteor falls down and crashes through the roof. Two groups of people then report the damage, one next to claims that the original roof was made by immigrants, one next to claims that I didn’t spend money on repairs. But these are both dumb juxtapositions because it doesn’t matter. Neither would have changed anything. A meteor is a meteor and it will crash through regardless of who built it or what state of repair it’s in. It’s pretty clear that neither group actually gives a shit about the meteor or about my roof, they just have an agenda they’re trying to push.

        • It really feels like you’re misreading this post. I know people have been trying to gotcha him, but that’s really nowhere to be read in this post.

          I’m not really sure I follow your metaphor. This post isn’t claiming Trump should have “fixed the roof”. At best it claims we should fund NASA to detect meteors, to stick with your metaphor.

          Trump’s claims are also not mentioned in this post, so whether or not it is “in reply” is also just a matter of your interpretation.

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      6 hours ago

      +1

      Don’t feed the trolls.

      Kneejerk reacting to Trump’s stupidity by finding something ancillary to blame it on him only feeds the troll in chief. It’s disrespectful.

      Ignore the rage bait, take occam’s razor based on what’s public, and let the investigators do their jobs.