Summary

Hundreds of subreddits are debating banning links to X.com (formerly Twitter) following Elon Musk’s Nazi salute at a Trump rally.

Dozens of subreddit moderators have already implemented bans, while others are holding votes among their communities.

The bans span political, regional, and topical subreddits, including r/NewJersey, r/londonOntario, and r/christianity, with some highlighting Musk’s gesture alongside neo-Nazi imagery.

This move reflects growing backlash against Musk and his platform over perceived alignment with extremist symbolism.

  • lurklurk@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    You can of course, you’re just chosing to support zuck, musk and durov because it’s slightly inconvenient for you not to

    Of those three, telegram isn’t as bad though. They’re insecure and share data with law enforcement etc, but they’re not as active and enthusiastic collaborators with Trump

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      2 days ago

      My point is the network effect. That’s where people are and I have no power to change that, so that is where I must sometimes be. If it was up to me, things would be wonderful and open source. But I sometimes have to deal with — ugh… humans.

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        It is up to you though. I get that you can make the choice that supporting zuck and musk is an OK price to pay to not have to do a little more work or be the annoying person saying “I only have Signal” but it is very much your choice. You could choose differently, if your priorities were different

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          India alone is about 2 billion people who all use WhatsApp. I cannot change the world. I hear you and would love for us all to switch to federated or — at least — decentralized things, or whatever. I will advocate for it, but like banks and shit are using WhatsApp. It is legitimized here even more than MMS. I can’t stop it. And yes, I have made the choice to communicate with humans rather than using Signal.

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          I did that for a while. The thing that happened was that I got left out of stuff, because people didn’t always think of informing me separately, when it was already discussed in the already existing groups. Sometimes they would inform me after all the planning was done what the plans were, sometimes I got a last minute info or no info at all. So the choice was between a significant loss in my social life and using the same service as everyone else in my social circles.

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          Some of us value our social connections more I guess? I still use WhatsApp and I have no control over those around me to use otherwise. As already stated it’s the network effect. The vast majority of people do not care about Telegram or Signal.

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          3 hours ago

          If Telegram receives a valid order from the relevant judicial authorities that confirms you’re a suspect in a case involving criminal activities that violate the Telegram Terms of Service, we will perform a legal analysis of the request and may disclose your IP address and phone number to the relevant authorities.

          Doesn’t seem unreasonable to me. And more importantly doesn’t seem insecure to me.

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            50 minutes ago

            The insecure bit is that they don’t e2e-encrypt by default, so they have access to the data. In theory someone could hack telegram’s servers and steal it. In theory someone might have done that already.

            Signal in contrast couldn’t really give your data away, without hiding a backdoor in the client or encryption, which someone could then find.

            I thought telegram were now also sharing message content with law enforcement, but it seems they claim to only share IP address and phone numbers. We have no way of verifying that, but it’s still better than I remembered.

            It might or might not matter for you of course.