Summary
Key leaders of the “Abandon Harris” movement, which encouraged voters to oppose Kamala Harris due to U.S. support for Israel during the Gaza war, are now expressing unease about Trump’s incoming administration.
Many in the movement, including prominent Muslim leaders, voted for Trump hoping he would bring peace to the Middle East.
However, concerns are growing over his Cabinet picks, such as Mike Huckabee and Tulsi Gabbard, which some see as troubling for Muslim communities.
“Abandon Harris” movement, you mean half of Lemmy? Where are you clowns now?
Moscow. Same place they’ve always been. Just a lot less work to do now.
It was a lot of .ml which are CCP(China), not Moscow.
Yes. Putin must have had a stiffy ever since November.
I see them everywhere still. Since she did lose, sounds like they were right about Kamala being a bad candidate.
Why are you guys still putting your head in the sand and determined to blame people on Lemmy, which is an extremely niche community, for the election results instead of helping boost the voices calling for the Democrats to give you guys better candidates.
You had 4 years to make a change, but you guys would rather just blame people that wants actual improvements and still doing so after you lost the election despite getting the candidate that you supported. It’s really funny to watch.
I don’t agree with you, which means you’re a bad poster.
The downvotes I’m getting means a lot of people think this unironically.
It’s not a matter of downvotes. It is your own logic.
You didn’t convince me. Therefore, you ARE a bad poster - as a matter of fact, not opinion. Just like how, through Kamala’s failure to convince people that she was the better choice, that she was a bad candidate.
Do you see where you generate a problem by placing blame on the “convincer”?
A presidential candidate’s job is to convince people to vote for them. Neither a Lemmy commentor or a politician’s job is to make people vote for them. Therefore, me not convincing people doesn’t make me a bad commenter, nor Kamala a bad politician. She is a bad presidential candidate for the current political climate, though. On the other hand, she’s not as bad as Biden, that’s for sure.
Anyone aside from stephen01king can reply to this comment with their anecdotes as to when they’ve posted thoroughly documented arguments on forums with absolutely NO intention of convincing people of anything; because it “isn’t their job”.
Otto Wels was a bad candidate because the German electorate liked fascism more than a socialist. This isn’t an attempt to persuade, I am merely screaming into the void.
A commenter is supposed to further discussions, not to convince others of his position. Your logic means an echo chamber is the ultimate goal of commenting on Lemmy, which I disagree.
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Very clever and original comment. If only my country is not affected by the US, EU, Russia, and China’s fuck ups, I would have just let you guys destroyed yourselves and just laugh, but that would be stupid of me. Seeing you all trying so hard to give Trump a fighting chance instead of banding together to fight fascism is both funny and worrying.
Bernie lost. Does your logic apply there too or only when it’s convenient for your argument?
He was a bad candidate to win the primary in a DNC that is focused more on pleasing the elites than the average voters, yes. But you forget one distinction, we can throw out the people in the DNC that created the situation in which Bernie becomes a bad candidate, but we can’t throw out American voters.
One reason the DNC is still ignoring what the average voter wants is because plenty of people prefer to attack those that wants to bring change rather than pressure the Democrats to change. Case in point, the people here on Lemmy.
I agree that Kamala was a “bad candidate” in that she wasn’t very electable, despite being an intelligent, eloquent, respectable leader.
It seems like the main concepts that sank her are simply that she’s not a white male, and sadly Trump seems to have this unshakable perception that he’s good with money despite all evidence to the contrary.
That said, I think there’s a lot of self reflection to be done amongst those on the left who sabotaged their own candidate. They were protesting about Palestine outside Harris’ rallies for goodness sake. I don’t think this specific demographic is responsible for losing the election, but they are idiots that need to consider their approach to societal change.
Edit: I replied to the wrong person, whoops. Now this would be a reason to qualify me as a bad commenter.