• enbyecho@lemmy.world
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      8 hours ago

      lol, the idea that I’ve said there is something wrong with being gay or being called gay is rich.

      You’ve said that using jokes about being gay is derogatory. Literally what you are saying is that calling someone gay has negative connotations. It’s bad to be gay.

      Let’s try to put this in simple terms:

      If one of my many very gay male friends calls someone a fag they are owning the definition of “fag”. If I call myself a dyke I own that word. If we joke about homophobes being secretly gay we own the language and we erect a shield against that being used in a derogatory manner against us.

      You want to police those definitions and tell people what they can and cannot say and can and cannot joke about. You want to take away that shield.

      I suspect you are young and did not live through a time when it was absolutely CRITICAL for the queer community writ large to take control of our language. Literally that was the only way we gained power and the only way we made jokes about fags and dykes NOT be derogatory.

      • Trying2KnowMyself@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        8 hours ago

        Jokes that treat being gay as bad are themselves homophobic, yes - they do not reclaim the word, they perpetuate hatred. You’re welcome to make those jokes - I’m not stopping you by calling out your internalized homophobia.

        You can also reclaim any words you want to. Nothing wrong with that.

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          7 hours ago

          Jokes that treat being gay as bad are themselves homophobic

          You are interpreting this particular joke as saying being gay is bad. I’m not. So I’m reclaiming the words and rolling with it. 'MMmmkay?