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      Tab grouping is nice, but I’ve found Sidebery to meet my needs (specifically nested tab groups, and separating projects — plus it worked out of the box with Firefox Color) much better. I have it configured to automatically unload collapsed branches, which is nice as a tab hoarder, and it can fully send entire panels to your bookmarks for later usage (this is a massive performance improvement when you’re regularly opening 100–200 tabs/day per panel). A native solution, however, would be much appreciated — as long as there’s a way to nest tab groups and unload their contents.

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        You can actually fairly easily unload tabs with about:unloads right now, but you have to do it in the order Facebook Firefox thinks they should be done for some reason.

        Honestly, I don’t know why, but sidebar tabs have just never worked for me. It makes no sense, but for some reason my brain just doesn’t process them correctly.

        But I agree, in general more fine-grained control of tabs would be the thing I would need in order to feel like Firefox was feature-complete.

        Edit: Facebook? Wtf?

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        I went with floorp, because it allowed native title bar disabling, with task bar editing so I could inject a grab handle; vertical tabs in sidebery, and a clean, nearly-ui-free vertical.

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    Honestly, I don’t see why CSS theming is important. The customization is nice and all, but that’s not going to make people switch to Firefox. There are many other things that could be improved, like adding tab grouping. I use this extension called Tree Style Tab which I cannot live without. Firefox having something like that by default instead of an extension would be nice.

    However, having said that, OperaGX did find quite a lot of success by simply making it easy to theme the browser, so I can see where they are coming from.

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      Tree Style Tab which I cannot live without. Firefox having something like that by default instead of an extension would be nice.

      Been using TST for a while now, and I whole heartedly agree. Given that it’s essentially just some CSS, I can’t imagine that it would be difficult at all to support natively.

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      Vertical Tabs are in the Nightly build, already. It is a very rudimentary implementation, still. Personally, I use Sideberry though.

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    Agreed. This is the only reason (besides the built-in fake VPN) OperaGX is popular. All browsers have pretty much the same feature set. OperaGX’s biggest strength is CSS customization, Firefox’s biggest strength is extensions, Edge’s is being the Windows default and Chrome’s is it’s image of “fast and secure browsing”.

    All Firefox needs to be is a jack of all trades. But still prioritize it’s main distinction.

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        Well I’m very unlikely to stray from Foss. The problem with theming is that it allows websites to pick you out in a crowd. That won’t matter much if you don’t clear cookies on close but for people who want to resist fingerprinting that is a deal breaker.

        I would love to theme the browser but that also themes websites are far as I can tell.

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    Main thing I want is to override site css. Who cares what the browser itself looks like.

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    I like theming , I am already a Firefox user. I think the sad reality is that for more adoptions , in the order of numbers that chrome puts up , Firefox needs to be a default application ; the common users doesn’t want to customize anything ( my hot take ).

    I don’t think it is important that Firefox gets to those numbers as long as they can generate enough revenue to keep going.

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      Not a hot take. Most regular end users are lazy, not tech savvy, or do not care. Not meant as an insult, it is just reality. I used to be a SysAdmin and this was always the case. This is why IE got big, and why Chrome and Google Search got big and to a larger extend why Apple’s offering got big in their ecosystem.

      Google trying to kill adblockers Barbara Streisand Effect them into the spotlight, magnitudes more than their own existence had merited to most average users in the last 15+ years, at least in the USA.

      And even now, I still know tons of end users who do not use adblockers.