Why so mad against french?
They seem to dislike france’s freedom of speech and their anti-islam stance.
… No, it does not make sense. I don’t have a clue.
I think it has more to do with Macron and his bedding of right-wing fascists to avoid a left-wing government coalition
That, and their funding of religious ethnostate terrorists…
Edit: i don’t get it, is it something I said?
Edit 2: OK, I was wrong about the specific context of the comment, but I’ll take partial credit for guessing it had to do with the war in Gaza
Yes, the dislike of a democratically elected leader is reasonable clause to call for innocent french people to die in a massacre
I didn’t say it was reasonable, I was only answering the question as to why they were angry with France.
I think what the west deserves for funding a genocidal fascist is entirely up for debate, but that they deserve something is pretty well justified, IMHO
I think what the west deserves for funding a genocidal fascist is entirely up for debate, but that they deserve something is pretty well justified, IMHO
Are you trying to say the West deserves violence? Advocating for violence isn’t allowed in this community or instance.
Maybe the west should lay off the fucking violence themselves and not bleat when it gets dished back to them once in a while.
The West? All of the West? You hear that New Zealand?! You cowards!
But legitimately, ‘dished back to them?’ – Not very pro-peace of you. Violence begets violence. You should aim for peace, not more war.
Absolutely not. I’m advocating for justice.
And what will this justice be? Because the post is saying a massacre.
I think it’s pretty telling you were advocating for violence, and now you’re forced to backtrack.
I didn’t say it was reasonable
This is true, and we’ll all let you continue to hide behind what you say directly while you are here defending the stance “of which you didn’t directly state”.
Take your doublespeak elsewhere 🤷
“Critical support” is a fundamentally reactionary concept so the tankies newest thing is that they love Islamic fundamentalists simply because they are in conflict with the West.
true chickens
Degenerates.
What does that mean? Do they actually want Charlie Hebdos, as in people that aren’t scared to make irreverent cartoons of Mohammed? Or they want people like Charlie Hebdo to get the same response from the Muslim community? There’s a difference.
I too am intrigued why tankies would support islamic fundamentalists murdering leftist french journalists… Doesn’t add up… My only guess (beyond the general mental illness tankies display) is that French colonialism fucked up cultures around the world for centuries — across south America, Africa, and Asia — and they still hold political and military control over a few of them… But why cheer islamic terrorism? Why cheer the murder of leftist journos?
This sub should require links to the offending thread, so users can view in context. Otherwise this could’ve been posted anywhere. I’d expect this screenshot from the likes of Truth Social.
Tankies are very simple things. They operate by US bad
If something, like jihadists, says the US is bad, then the Tankies will support them.
until…
BWARK 🔪🐔
This sub should require links to the offending thread, so users can view in context. Otherwise this could’ve been posted anywhere. I’d expect this screenshot from the likes of Truth Social.
I also am not allowed to link to the content. I also don’t link to it because then they can edit or change the content.
I was going to reply but yeah you said it
Gradbears would see a group of Taliban gangraping a 6 year old and say it’s all on US voters for not breaking the status quo
They’re leftists but not the right kind of leftists. That makes them deserving of being murdered in the tankies’ eyes.
They are reacting to this comic from ‘Liberation’ newspaper last year about the genocide in Gaza during Ramadan:
The woman in a hijab is slapping the hand of an emaciated Gazan chasing after a rat, presumably to catch and eat it, and saying “Not before sunset”
Ha, that is funny though. Sad on those people saying the caartoonist should be murdered for it
On a sidenote: after one year of fighting, most residents of Gaza now believe that the Holy Attack was not worth it. I think that this cartoon rightly mocks the idea of a ‘Holy War’, even if some of its victims never made that choice
Funny that they’re mocking muslims for their faith while they starve during the Israeli-manufactured famine?
This war/famine is a religious construct
Israelis (in general) are no better or worse in this regard
This conflict is as related to religion as a doughnut is related to the cultivation of sugar cane. Impossible to exist as it does without it, but could (and probably would) have arisen under different circumstances and with slight differences without it.
Reducing this conflict into its religious factions conveniently ignores the cascading history and various material interests that allied imperial states have within the region. It also happens to be an easy way to ideologically frame the conflict about out-of-touch religious fanatics, even though it never would have happened at this scale or on this timeline without the vested contributions of secular liberal states.
I hope you’re not one of those reactionary evangelists who believe the rapture will come once Israel is destroyed and are therefore aroused by the boundless death of innocent people.
The ‘scale of this conflict’ is still very small if you compare it to, say, the Syrian, Yemeni or Sudanese civil wars.
Of course you’re one of those reactionary evangelists who’ll claim none of these have anything to do with religion and the people in the region are just puppets waiting for the secularist liberals to pull their strings.
Or maybe they’re just donuts
They want to kill – Or rather, like classic rich college kids, they want others to kill for them. They will thankfully never do anything violent, all bark.
(Well, actually, watch out for them IRL on a smaller level. They very well may be violent, abusive people that will hurt you, or participate in SLA style politicial violence, it’s just that no “revolution” is ever going to happen.
And before someone says it, no I didn’t say they all are, just that they can be.)
I’ve seen what they look like. They’re not particularly strong men, really flimsy, actually. Riddled with anxiety and insecurity.
Usually. Every now and again they kill Marcus Foster.
My favorite is when I’m operating off the assumption that a specific tankie user is just a disillusioned member of the working poor, and then they make some casual comment outside of a political thread and reveal that they’re an able-bodied white cishet married homeowner with two incomes, both six-digits, and they’re lecturing others on privilege. Like, fucking what? I’m fucking sitting here counting my calories when I buy groceries so I don’t lose weight, I’m quite literally sitting under a leaky fucking roof with a bucket on the floor to stop it from soaking the carpet, I’m sitting here wondering if I should blow my fucking brains out if healthcare reform is rolled back in this country, I’m sitting here worried about non white-passing members of my family in a white nationalist fascist society, and these bougie (in the colloquial, not Communist, sense) fucks are telling me that my politics are coming from a position of privilege?!
Some of us actually have something to lose under a fascist regime, like our fucking lives, and these twats swear up and down that the suffering of Minorities and Poors™ are the gateway to the revolution. Other than having zero fucking evidence to back that up, considering the level of suffering inflicted on societies worse off than the West’s without even the murmurs of revolution, it’s real fucking easy to sacrifice someone else’s life for your goals - and of course, those goals being not utilitarian, but simply to achieve some sense of self-satisfaction at ‘opposing’ the ‘Imperial Core’ or whatever the fuck the buzzword of the week is.
It’s absolute insanity.
Thankfully they hold zero power and zero political sway in the real world
1000 pretentious leftist magazines would be WAY too many
What we really need is Charlie Chapman. He would end the Israeli complicit immediately
This is illegal under french law I believe
Feel free to report them
Had to go looking, but I found the image this comment is in reaction to.
spoiler
It’s a cartoon from “Liberation” newspaper in france, and the caption is “Ramadan in Gaza” (published just after the hunanitarian aid blockade and famine crisis started in Gaza, for which Israel is now being accused as an act of genocide)
The woman in a hijab is slapping the hand of an emaciated Gazan chasing after a rat, presumably to catch and eat it, and saying “Not before sunset”
It’s a pretty openly Islamophobic joke about Gazan’s starving during the month of Ramadan where muslims traditionally fast from sunrise to sunset.
I don’t think it should need to be said, but even orthodox Muslims recognize exceptions to fasting during ramadan for starvation and bodily injury.
I see it as a joke on how religious fundamentalists would rather condemn their children to die over their own religious choices (which includes waging religious wars)
Religion is all these people have left. Can’t condemn them for their last semblance of hope in a hostile environment. Nor can you place sole blame on religion for the conflict. It’s a lot deeper than that
(They are allowed to eat during Ramadan. that is if Egypt and Israel didn’t withhold international aid, such as flour)
I’d suggest they find something better than religion to put their hope in.
Claiming this conflict isn’t about religion is like claiming the US civil war wasn’t about slavery. In the end it’s jews that wanted the territory to be jewish, and muslims that wanted the territory to remain muslim. If judaism and islam hadn’t existed, all of the ‘deeper’ reasons and divisions just fall away.
I think you can argue that for every single conflict in history
WW1; WW2; Korea; Vietnam; the Gulf Wars; Russian revolution; French revolution; US revolution; US civil war; …
Claiming this conflict isn’t about religion is like claiming the US civil war wasn’t about slavery.
Err, I actually kinda like this comparison to the civil war - not because the war in Gaza is ‘about religion’ - but because it’s about Israel’s right to occupy/subjugate Palestinian territories and Palestinians within the West Bank and Gaza, which is similar to the South fighting over their right to own/subjugate people of color (though not entirely, since Israel doesn’t claim racial superiority (at least not explicitly)).
What’s strange about this comparison is that it inadvertently casts Israel as the slavers, even though it seems like the intent is to indict both Judaism and Islam equally
Religious fundamentalists do not encourage or instruct fasting during an ongoing famine (not even Islamic ones).
Thinking that they do (and laughing about it) while they starve at the hands of their colonial occupier is honest-to-god nazi-level genocide apologia.
You’d be hard pressed to find a cartoonist more fond of mocking neo-nazi’s than the one who drew this
It’s mocking adults who’d prefer to die for their religion for condemning their kids (and their kids) to do the same. If you believe they’re starving their kids directly then this newspaper is too difficult for you
If you believe they’re starving their kids directly then this newspaper is too difficult for you
Of course they’re not suggesting they’re ‘starving their kids directly’, but what they are doing is sidelining the colonial power actually responsible for their starvation and instead holding up an inaccurate and bigoted portrayal of their religious practices as a stand-in for Israel’s culpability.
To blame Muslims for Israel’s sustained genocidal bombardment of innocent Gazans is a level of depraved racist bigotry I honestly never thought I’d witness in my time. The Nazis blamed the Jews for their own extermination, and that is precisely what you are doing here.
Don’t call others Nazis. Not allowed.
What about when they’re actually a Nazi?
What makes you think they’re a nazi?
Point to where I called him a Nazi and I’ll disavow communism and join the IOF.
why disavow communism?
The Nazis blamed the Jews for their own extermination, and that is precisely what you are doing here.
I don’t think it should need to be said, but even orthodox Muslims recognize exceptions to fasting during ramadan for starvation and bodily injury.
Pretty sure that’s the joke. It’d be real absurd if a cartoon acted otherwise.
The joke only works if the reader holds the Islamophobic view that Palestinians were starving because their faith forbids them from eating, and not because Israel was starving them by blockading humanitarian aid.
Nah, that’s the commentary. If “starving because of religion” is a silly fabrication, what’s the reality?
Israel was starving them by blockading humanitarian aid.
Israel wants them dead or gone so they can have their land.
Religion is what they use justify their lack of humanity, but its simple greed and depravity that motivates them to abandon it.
Exaclty, it’s not a complicated cartoon
Strange way to evoke Israel’s motivation to starve Gazans by pointing to the religion of the victims.
True! The absurd misdirect almost makes the joke clever, in an underwhelming kind of way. Bit of a groaner really
