• CaliforniaSober@lemmy.ca
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    1 month ago

    Once you recognize the last century of US foreign policy will you get something else to talk about?

    Is this suddenly a new topic for you? Any reason? Why is it that I never heard you during Reagan or gwb’s term? Any reason why this shit was quiet during obama’s two terms and what were you doing during trump’s admin?

    You want to make this of all things a make or break for Harris why?

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      We all know why.

      I’m glad people are interested in what’s happening in Gaza. Fucking finally. But I’d prefer actual empathy to this false bullshit being pushed by nefarious (sometimes state) actors to sow doubt among Democratic voters with the clear goal of electing the guy who will let Netanyahu turn it to dust and start WW3.

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      bruh i’m talking about shit going on right now, and I was out in the streets getting gassed by cops in 2020 what the fuck are you talking about?

      There were insane protests against the Iraq war, if you’re really that ignorant of them you were probably just doing what you are now, then.

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        I’m aware of and participated in those protests. The difference was that no one called democrats genocidal when republicans lied their way into a war.

        Yet now the democrats are being called genocidal for basically being in power after decades of policy and foreign relations were already set. Very different from lying about yellow cake. It’s almost like there’s a nuance being lost in your bullshit rhetoric.

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          Yet now the democrats are being called genocidal for basically being in power after decades of policy and foreign relations were already set.

          If you get in power with genocidal policies in place, and do nothing to change them, after running as the people to ‘change’ things, for 3+ presidential terms, you’re going to get tarred with the same brush.

          The lying about yellow cake required democrats going along with it. Biden (and many others) voted for the Iraq war on the basis of those lies- I don’t think he was swindled, it was a convenient lie to believe if you’re a foreign policy hawk.

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            1 month ago

            It takes a lot of time to steer the ship. You’re blaming one party for not instantly correcting the other party’s decade of policy. Maybe blame the voters?

            You mention a handful of democrats believing the lies coming from a GOP led White House. That doesn’t impugn the whole party, and you conveniently ignore the source of those lies to attack democrats.

            It’s hilarious that the same folks that keep attacking a 2 party system still use it as the basis of their ignorance. As I said before there’s a nuance that gets lost when you spew bullshit.

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              It’s a two party system where both parties have the same genocidal policies around the world, and one of the parties goes “aw shucks, we’re so sorry” while the other foams at the mouth.

              They’re both bad for different reasons, the mad dog is obviously just that, but the person going along with it the whole time pretending to be the reasonable one? That’s why they get scorn.

              People refuse to even hear criticism of them because ‘look how bad the other ones are’

              You mention a handful of democrats believing the lies coming from a GOP led White House. That doesn’t impugn the whole party, and you conveniently ignore the source of those lies to attack democrats.

              The president/ vice president for the last 12/16 years, is somehow not a fair metric for the party he represents.