Video killed the radio star
God, the irony of MTV playing this as their very first music video.
Podcasts are literally a thing
It’s a song bro
Podcasts are not what this song is about at all. You are not totally incorrect though, podcasts are similar to radio.
Music was better when I used to look at the back of an album and the credits were like a dozen people. I’m sorry to people who like Beyonce, Gaga etc. But you look at their albums and they have hundreds of writers, engineers, producers, mixers, etc. What do these celebrities actually do anymore? Just show up and read the lines and the crew takes care of the rest? I’m sorry but that to me isn’t a good artist or musician, that’s just manufactured branding.
There is a reason Beyoncé is labeled a performer. I don’t believe many of them could ever sing, the popular ones are all autotune performers.
Reminds me of Randy on South park
https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxJd3vfCkiwDslB9r1xvfx9609RJzbLYh-?si=vOJmvu-OlFtIRflK
Imagine how much less beautiful the world would be if this face weren’t allowed to succeed
Young Mic Jagger was a snacc.
When he was young, he had an atypical beauty but he was fucking hot.
“Ugly” and “good music” are subjective
That’s not the question. Do you think music nowadays puts more emphasis on the appearance of the artist than before? Idk what it is but I find reactions like this annoying. Like OP makes a good point and then we have to hear a lot of ‘well, actually’ bs.
Do you think music nowadays puts more emphasis on the appearance of the artist than before?
I think the question is backwards. What we have isn’t a prioritization of appearance but a reduction of advertised talent combined with a professionalization of cosmetics. When you’ve consecrated your industry around a bare handful of performers, you can pick out the fist full of people that check every box.
Beyonce, Swift, Usher, and Bieber cover all the bases.
But once you get outside that rarified niche of promoted talent? Do you really think Post Malone is famous for his good looks? Is Kishi Bashi just coasting on his pretty face?
I don’t really think so.
Attractive people get more opportunities in life, it’s baked into our brains. I prefer looking at attractive people. Music is something we hear, but with digital and social media it’s as much seen as it is heard. More artists are coming up through tik tok now than the radio. This relationship shows that being attractive will improve a persons odds of being successful in music. Maybe if personality can shine through in those videos it can overtake appearance.
More artists are coming up through tik tok now than the radio.
The radio isn’t a thousand independent stations looking to fill air time with local talent, it’s a handful of mega-monoliths looking to maximize advertising revenue with the Most Popular Thing (that fits the corporate agenda).
This relationship shows that being attractive will improve a persons odds of being successful in music.
Blandly conventionally attractive, to boot. Could we even do Amy Winehouse in the modern moment? Could we see Eminem or Maryl Manson or Buddy Holly or Ray Charles or Billie Holiday topping the charts? Idfk anymore. Seems like it’s easier than ever to blacklist anyone who is even remotely controversial. Plenty of attractive people who will do the Brittany Spears thing for fear of being the next Dixie Chicks.
Maybe if personality can shine through in those videos it can overtake appearance.
Unfortunately, the personality that shines brightest seems to be the kind that singles you’re an asshole.
Just ask P Diddy and Kanye.
Ok Dr Peterson.
That’s true!!! Ugly people are talented.
Don’t ask me how I know…
Politics too
Nah, ugly ppl still make the music, behind the scenes :p
Just about to comment this. Singers these days are usually the “face.”
^ Uses 80s iconography to make fun of GenX’s parents.
Isn’t it ironic?
A little too ironic
Moreso than a traffic jam, when you’re already late for work?
Almost as much as 10,000 spoons when all you need is a knife.
Sorry for the delay. I won the lottery and died the next day. Ironic.
Pop is just as manufactured and fake as it always was, with the exceptional trend setter or two doing their own thing, but what’s just below the surface is always just as good as it always was.
As a fan of hardcore, electronica, folk, metal, and all of the genres that fall under them, I still get new bands. I still get new releases. I get cheap as fuck concerts and still get cool merch and awesome vinyls. I have zero to complain about. Hell, Primus, A Perfect Circle and Puscifer just made an album together, in 2024.
Anyone who says music sucks now doesn’t really listen to that much music to start with. Music is just fine, man. Maybe look a little deeper than the pudding skin.
Exactly. I wish these types of posts would change “music these days” to “pop these days” because that’s what they’re talking about.
It’s debatable when pop actually began but pop as we know it really codified in the 80s with dawn of MTV and acts like Madonna and Michael Jackson. The Beatles, Rolling Stones, Queen, etc were popular but I wouldn’t classify any of this as Pop. Pop has always been pretty people because it was by its nature tied to a visual medium.
People need to stop using Pop as a stand in for all music. We have more access to music than ever before and a lot of the music I listen to regularly, I have no idea what they look like.
Those $10 dive bar bands are always the best
I have had a 50/50 success rates. The ones who are bad are REALLY bad. To make up for it, they crank the gain, volume, and distortion to 11 and just annihilate everyone’s eardrums.
An album called?
SESSANTA E.P.P.P.
Following a tour they just kicked off.
Thanks!
I hear you and agree with much of that. I am a fan of multiple genres as well. But, as far as it goes for jazz, jazz is dead. Anyone still attempting to play it is often a sad version of what was once great in the 50s/60s/70s. So while there’s plenty of music in other genres I like, always more to find from those time periods, as well as still enjoying the classics, it’s a little upsetting good jazz is dead, modern jazz is trash, and people who think they know jazz these days actually refer to some other genre, like rock. Somewhat sad.
Have you checked out Live from Emmett’s Place?
Live jazz streamed every week.
I have not. Thank you.
I definitely don’t know where to look these days. I believe I was previously recommended SmallsLIVE, also on YT, but admittedly haven’t spent much time there. https://youtube.com/@smallslive?si=b4mxAHP1xqxv7QNm
I’ve also been listening to Avishai Cohen, a bassist, for the past many years, who has modern things and may still be active. Jazz is just not mainstream in any way anymore. And most people don’t know what it is.
Jazz, to me, a layman to the genre comes off as anything from Miles Davis and Duke Ellington to soundtracks composed for animes, to progressive epics that span twenty minutes and spin into a free form improv that’s somewhere between art and math.
But aside from it being a flavor other things come in, like a jazzy rock band, Mars Volta or a jazzy metal band, like Opeth, or a jazzy singer, like Michael Buble, I don’t know jazz.
I don’t think as a normal person that I’m exposed to pure “jazz”, whatever it dilutes into, but I’m fascinated by the chance that there might be something I’m missing that you might mention.
I suppose I don’t know a ton. My earliest entry was that of Buddy Rich, the drummer. As a drummer, I wanted to relate. Play fast and all. Haha. Though my playing has all but ceased (the stomach drum and desk drum will always live on!), my love for his often high tempo pieces lives on. He played songs I believe others played as well. His versions were just more upbeat!
I’ll give you an example of a group I didn’t like all that much and that was the Glen Miller Orchestra. Even as a jazz fan I can hear the style of jazz people refer to when they talk about “music to put you to sleep.”
But BR was just the beginning. It sounds like you know more than most believe it or not. Miles is great and I think I have more to discover there even.
The latest artist I found, new to me, also from the 50s/60s I believe, is Bill Evans, a pianist. It was a YouTube comment I came across that mentioned Evans to now be their “piano daddy” and from what I’m hearing, I’d have to agree. 😁 But, again, I only know so much. (Talk as if I know it all though…)
Buddy Rich was good for his time and influential and all that, but the instrument has evolved so far since then.
Check out Matt Gartska and a band called Animals as Leaders for a great modern jazz drummer.
The first song that came up for me on YT by him was Physical Education. There’s a lot of rock in there. He reminds me somewhat of a Dave Weckl or Carter Beauford even. Some of the instrument’s evolution I’m not interested in.
Google classifies Animals as Leaders as a progressive metal band…
Gartska’s main band is a progressive metal band but the drummer is a jazz drummer through and through. Just look up some of his workshops and playthroughs if you just want to see simply good drumming. Most progressive metal is basically heavy jazz.
I understand its different strokes for different folks and all, and appreciate you giving them a chance and responding.
Awful take. Last weekend I saw Mike Dillon with Phunkadelick playing with Brian Haas on the Rhodes organ. They played a wild punk-jazz show that is one of the best shows I’ve ever attended. There was a mosh pit at a jazz concert where a primary instrument was a vibraphone.
In recent years, I’ve greatly enjoyed things like AKU!'s album Blind Fury (drum/trumpet/baritone sax trio) and Ambrose Akinmusire’s Origami Harvest. A lot of modern jazz is blending in electronic influences, like Sungazer. Maybe you don’t like these things, but I can’t imagine calling jazz dead.
I’m not sure that’s jazz anymore, but maybe I have more to learn. I wouldn’t go to a jazz concert with a mosh pit. The two don’t go together.
Isn’t the core of jazz improvisation and breaking the “rules” of music? If that’s what they’re doing, why would we disqualify it as jazz? A lot of folks had this opinion of Miles Davis doing jazz fusion in the 70s on Bitches Brew and Live/Evil with his squeaky, borderline abusive trumpeting, or of Herbie Hancock doing weird space synth stuff on Sextant and funk fusion on Headhunters. I don’t see how what you’re saying isn’t just gatekeeping that’s not really in the spirit of jazz.
Modern jazz is dope. It takes influences from everywhere, and turns them into jazz. Which is what it’s always done. In that sense jazz musicians playing electronica is no different to jazz musicians playing tin pan alley.
Ugly people make music all the time.
You really gonna tell me Ed Sheeran is good looking? Post Malone?
He looked better pre-Malone
Is that Ed!? Holy shite he’s really changed his look!
Tap for spoiler
/s
Where’s his chin?
But the contention is about music being better, and that’s some bad music.
Did we read the same post?
Music was better when ugly people were allowed to make it
I guess your comment makes sense if you find those two attractive.
Like I get the boomer joke of music these days sucks but my comment was leaning into joke.
Yeah, and Jack White aint pretty either.
Imo, this post is better directed at hollywood
He looks good enough to me.
Your comment makes sense in the frame of “ugly people are allowed to make music,” my comment refers to the “music was better” part of the post.
The ugly people you mentioned don’t support your comment’s argument against the original assertion because their music is terrible, not “better.”
Some music sucked in the boomer’s days, made by ugly and pretty people alike.
He’s simply disputing the assertion that ugly people aren’t allowed to make music.
Yeah, that’s what the comment you replied to starts with.
Yeah so what’s your problem with what he said then?
Why did you reply to my comment to restate the first part of what I said?
Adele isn’t that good looking as well, but she is well loved as a singer.
You’ve got some warped standards for beauty.
But she used to be kinda fat tho…
/s
I’ve never heard his music, but I think Post Malone is beautiful
“Ugly” people still make music but apparently you don’t listen to it. Shameful, tbh.
Yea that’s why metal fuckin rules. We got the ugliest guys ever altogether in one room and said “what you got?” and they became legends
And for anyone that might say that doesn’t happen anymore, I ask: how many open mic nights or $20 shows have you been to lately? The scene is doing great in my area, but it doesn’t happen by magic. Ya gotta support it, spread the word, bring your friends.
More of a hardcore guy myself but we’re equally as ugly so I stand in solidarity
Yeah, no kidding. I just bought tickets for a $15 show that has multiple bands and included a overseas band. I mentioned to them that they should’ve upped the prices to $20.
Also: Sturgeon‘s law still applies: “90% of everything is crap“. Music is so amazingly easy to make these days you can do it on your phone (and I believe a Grammy nominated/winning album did so). Which means that there are literally thousands of albums every year, And so there will be a lot of crap. But between Bandcamp and Spotify and SoundCloud (and so on, even self-hosting), this is the freaking plutonium age if you like new music. There is literally so much that you can’t possibly keep up with it, even in sub genres. And there are some amazing gems coming out daily
Most of my favorite artists are beautiful tho… Mikael Akerfeldt, Alexi Laiho (RIP), Devin Townsend, Shagrath…
I also thought Alexi was hot, but I’ve never heard anyone else say that until now.
Also Tosin Abasi (founder of Animals as Leaders), but I’d be shocked if anyone said he isn’t attractive.
Edit: some pics and tunes.
Alexi Laiho, lead singer of Children of Bodom:
Lake Bodom (youtube): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtmFh-2CJ7A
Tosin Abasi, guitarist of Animals as Leaders:
CAFO (youtube): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0ZrF7taMHA
Alexi was sooooo hawt.
Also fuck yeah, how could I forget Tosin?!
Dudes with long hair can get a real vibe. Francesco Paoli (Fleshgod Apocalypse) also nails it I think:
And in usual fashion, here’s a very cool song and music video. Sugar (youtube): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xmq3iyW02b8
First heard of Fleshgod when I saw The Black Dahlia Murder live. Nobody knew who they were, so they just walked up on stage, yelled “We are from the Italy!” and then went straight into playing. Such a great show.
He’s… beautiful…
Thank you for the new artist!
Video killed the radio star
And the guest rappers killed the guitar solo.
Is this showerthoughts or oldbumperstickers?
Not every thought I have in the shower is original.
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Clearly not?
I, for one, have never seen that bumper sticker. So you’re good with me.
Speak for yourself, KenM.
sir, this is /r/lewronggeneration
Hey, OP might be old. There’s some of us around.