• LoopingRiver@lemm.ee
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    Well, when your entire existence is focused on bringing down the big bad USA, of course you’d support Trump, Putin, and Ci. They’re just delusional thinking that the US would be better modeled after those two terrible countries.

    Russia the failed state and China the most xenophobic “economic power” in the world.

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      I sincerely wish you one day get the opportunity to travel the world and see something other than your backwater town in bumfuck nowhere, USA (everywhere in the USA is bumfuck nowhere USA)

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        It’s true, until i left the country i had no idea that you could go somewhere and feel a sense of “a stranger will give a shit if I lay bleeding on the street.”

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          in the imo incredible graphic novel Persepolis by Marjane Satrapi, the author and protagonist makes note of how, in Iran, if you were sleeping on a park bench someone would come to you and offer you respite. In Austria – where she fled to during the Islamic Revolution – she was homeless for weeks and would sleep on park benches. Nobody stopped to check on her.

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            well at least the US isn’t like that. in the US it’s not acceptable to people when others have to sleep on benches and if someone does have no choice but to sleep on a bench they wouldn’t be ignored.

            because the benches are modified so she’d have to sleep in the gutter and rather than be ignored she would get a healthy dose of ridicule and hate from regular people around her before being beaten by the same cops that poured bleach in the dumpster to poison any throw away food she might have found there. progress.

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      of course you’d support Trump

      Literally none of us do. This is a completely baseless and delusional accusation.

      They’re just delusional thinking that the US would be better modeled after those two terrible countries.

      And this shows further that you have zero understanding of our positions. None of us want the US to be modelled after Russia’s system. Russia has an exploitative, capitalist system that was imposed on it by the US. It makes zero sense whatsoever to think that we’d want to model the US after it.

      You’re just talking nonsense and jumping to conclusions because you’re totally unwilling to make any effort to understand where we’re coming from.

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        Dont give them too much, funnily even the Russian system post 91 isnt half as corrupt and destructive to its own people as the American system is.

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          Regardless, it’s still a capitalist system and not an ideal to persue.

          There’s no one set of policies that define Marxism anyway. Being critically supportive of a government abroad doesn’t mean you want to institute all of its policies at home, and that’s my main point.

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            That’s fair, I just see lemmygrad has a lot of libs at the moment and i dont want to cede any ground lest they try to pull it towards the Western “leftist” standard of “sure america bad but russia worse,” Russia today is not my ideal but it is better than America by no small margin

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              That’s also fair, it’s difficult to have an intelligent conversation when the libs are waiting to twist anything we say around in the worst possible light. That is, when they’re not just fully pulling shit out of their asses like “supporting Trump”

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                Yeah, i dont know how yaall been doin it, just one glance at new lemmygrad is giving me head pain 😅 i see it as a wonderful radicalization and growth opportunity though. But damn do these mfers say the same dozen things over and over…

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        Xenophobia is:

        When you haven’t been in a war in 50 years and actively build infrastructure with other countries as a part of mutual trade deals.

        Xenophobia is not:

        When you have a history of starting wars and destabilising other nations, and inflict horrific cruelties on your minority population.

        ( ) (In case of the most obvious canned lib response)

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      I now finally understand why the Soviets were playing nice with the Nazis before Barbarossa, just cut from the same cloth. Some things never change.

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        The Soviets suggested to the UK and France that they would station 1 million soldiers to the border with Germany if the two would also invade, thereby avoiding WW2. Both countries refused, hoping that Germany would attack the USSR and destroy communism.

        And wouldn’t you know it, USSR saved humanity and France capitulated in 5 days. TERF island being saved only by the fact that they were on an island. Remind me again who gave Hitler Czechoslovakia? Remind me who committed a full Holocaust in their colonies? It ain’t Stalin.

        If you support either the UK or France over the USSR you’re a genocidal maniac and should be locked up before you go on a rampage. I don’t feel safe around you.

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          The furtherance of good neighbourly relations between France and Germany, as well as the expression of their mutual desire to develop peaceable relations, constitute an essential element in this enterprise.

          For this reason I feel gratified at the signing of this Franco–German declaration, which, by solemnly recognizing the existing frontiers, puts an end to a long historical contest and opens the way to a collaboration which is made easier by the conviction that no difference which might endanger the peaceful basis of their relations now exists between the two countries.

          M. Georges Bonnet, 1938