Graphene OS has had just about enough of Google not doing more to make Android compatible with custom ROM projects.

TL;DR

  • Efforts like Graphene OS face increasing pressure from apps that refuse to run on non-standard Android.
  • The custom ROM project characterizes Google’s approach to device attestation as incomplete and flawed.
  • Graphene OS is prepared to take legal action if Google won’t let it pass Play Integrity checks.
  • tabular@lemmy.worldEnglish
    913·
    3 months ago

    I’ve never used contactless on my phone, I already had a contactless debit card. Why are you, and others, using their phones to pay?

    • Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      232·
      3 months ago

      Why carry a contact less card when you can pay with your phone? Have you given it a try? I find myself without a card in lots of situations. Paying by phone is incredibly convenient. Lot harder to lose than a card too.

      • Tomato666@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
        3·
        3 months ago

        Yes, it has an upper limit though as I discovered after cycling to the garage to pick up my car with just my phone. Triple cycling joy that day 🙄

        • Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          2·
          3 months ago

          Yes this depends on the linked card, the software you are using and sometimes vendor limits. Many banks have a cardless withdrawal from atm option as a backup if there happens to be atm nearby. These can have pretty high limits. There are also card generating apps like cash app where you create a cc number on the fly. In a pinch most vendors can easily split the cost of something across different cards if one is maxing out.

      • tabular@lemmy.worldEnglish
        21·
        3 months ago

        I’d still carry my debit card if I used phone, just in case I lose one while out and about. I think I’d be more likely to notice my phone is missing but more likely to lose the phone in the first place.

        I’ve never tried it in part because I don’t trust my phone with it’s proprietary software, and I suspect there may be no open source apps to pay with.

      • communism@lemmy.mlEnglish
        66·
        3 months ago

        A contactless card barely takes up any space. It’s not particularly easier to lose either. I’ve never lost my card; I just keep it in my wallet, in my pocket, just like my phone is in my pocket.

        • Serinus@lemmy.worldEnglish
          19·
          3 months ago

          You know what takes up less space? Software on the phone that I’m already carrying.

          There have also been occasions where I forget my wallet but still have my phone to pay with.

        • neinhorn@lemmy.caEnglish
          9·
          3 months ago

          Easy with one card, but it’s a different story when you have multiple cards. Transit pass, loyalty cards from grocery stores for discounts, credit cards for cash back rewards.

    • Demdaru@lemmy.worldEnglish
      9·
      3 months ago

      Lazy.

      Just plain lazy.

      I already have my phone in hand in shops - shopping lists, reminders or even plain taking my mind off the shelves so I won’t buy unnecessary shit. Then I get to checkout and…my phone is already in hand. Just boop it and done. No need to dig out wallet from pocket and then dig out card from wallet.

    • GetOffMyLan@programming.devEnglish
      112·
      3 months ago

      There’s no need to carry your cards if you already have your phone.

      Also, unlike your wallet, if you lose it you can track it.

    • aquinteros@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      3 months ago

      the app hides the real numbers for the credit card and gives the POS a mock id to make the purchase. it’s harder to clone. also you need to unlock the phone for it to work it’s an extra layer of protection

    • bellafragmento@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      3 months ago

      I’ve never used a contactless debit card. I already had a chip and pin debit card. Why are you, and others, using your contactless card to pay?

      • barsoap@lemm.eeEnglish
        61·
        3 months ago

        My Chip+PIN card has an RFID chip. Standard in Germany. Why would I tell, much less trust, google with my banking. Why would I let them skim data and/or a percentage off the transaction. Why would I choose a system with spotty acceptance, whereas I can use my girocard everywhere. It also doubles as 2nd factor for online banking.

      • tabular@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        3 months ago

        I didn’t choose, my bank gave me a contactless card when my last chip and pin card expired (the card still has chip and pin which I use when contactless fails).

    • nevemsenki@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      3 months ago

      I can create a virtual card before every trip, use it via my phone and then cancel it after the trip, never worrying if my card got skimmed anywhere for one.

      • aquinteros@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        3 months ago

        when you pay using the virtual wallet it automatically makes a mock id to the POS … at least in my country it does

        • nevemsenki@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          3 months ago

          Ehhh I’m not sure how I got skimmed. Better safe than sorry now, a deleted card is pretty foolproof

      • steel_nomad@lemmy.worldEnglish
        22·
        3 months ago

        For some fucking reason there is zero option for this type of secure virtual card in my country. And I hate it. A friend got skimmed for over $1200 a couple months ago.

    • towerful@programming.devEnglish
      2·
      3 months ago

      I find it super convenient.
      Also, it doesn’t have a limit. Pretty sure I bought my last car with contactless on my phone, but that was years ago.