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    If he can lay down a four-belt balancer from memory, you are the side hoe to his Factorio addiction.

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      Her: "He’s thinking about other women now…isn’t he?

      Him: “If I rebuilt my rocket control units factory, I could reach a rocket launch every 4 minutes vs 4.5. Then if I optimize my platform in space…”

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          Check out the Space Exploration Mod. The Vanilla game is like the first 10% of the mod. It’s truly a lot. It’s so good that the modder was hired to help make the expansion.

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              All freebasing the dopamine loop. Straight chasing the verisimilitude dragon. Cold bioengineering a 99% pure micro-accomplishment. Dropping into the euphoric liminal pool until immersed in a digital dream you can never fully reach, and never fully escape until you are inevitably forced to surface in the real. Cold and wet with the silt of the riverbed you scream to the Gods ‘‘WHY WON’T YOU KILL ME, I AM, WEAK AND, NUMB AND, INSIGNIFICANT!’’

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              I have Factorio and Stellaris in my steam wish list but every time a sale comes up I’m still laying plans for a reactor building or organ “donation” center in Rimworld and realize if I buy more of these I’ll just never sleep or eat again.

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                Factorio has never gone on sale. The price did go up from US$30 to $35 during the worst of the inflation. At some point this year, we’ll get a version 2.0 that massively updates the core game, and has an expansion you can optionally purchase.

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        Which one? The shortest one with the bump on the side, or the narrow on that is never wider than 8 belts?? Here, let me show yo…. Ohmigawd.

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      Yeah, my first thought is that the ‘map games’ are the side hoe to my factory game addiction, which is mostly Factorio.

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        i think the city had several names and the official byzantine name was after constantine, it makes sense that after the ottomans took the city they didn’t keep honoring the dude they took it from. they started using other names along with constantine’s, and and eventually this one won out.

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          Official name of Constantinople was Konstantiniye in Ottoman, just pronounciation of same word.

          And Actually Istanbul is not named by Turks, it is not Turkish. Most believed theory is that when city grew in 18th century, like circles around old city by suburs and outskirts, Greeks among new residents started tlaks about these areas as stampoli (or however it is written in Greek), translate as “stam” means “to” or “near”, “poli” means “city”. And after a while, since population and area of old city became so small in comparison, by 19th century locals from all nation started called city Stampoli or however they can pronounce, such Turks as Istampul. That became İstanbul (easier to say) and it wasn’t until Turkey it was official name.

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    I know what the difference is and don’t play those map video games.

    But I do like shoving little soldiers around the table top. And the only thing historic about those is that most of them are no longer being produced.

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        The most hardcore “map game” I’m playing is Total War (Warhammer these days). I do love me some Starcraft though.

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            Oh right, there was that one also. Somehow completely forgot about Medieval 2 (was more of a Rome player).

            But my knowledge of their existence comes more from the fact that I was dumb enough to take Latin in school. We had to translate letters by the German ambassador (Busbecq) to the Ottoman Empire from when he was sent to Byzantium Constantinople Kostantiniyye Istanbul (the wiki-article about the names of the city alone is fascinating).

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          Hoi4 Black Ice?

          While I love the Total War combo of strategic map play + in the field tactical control, I think there are a good deal of map games even more technically complex, but they are incredibly niche.

          Starcraft is an RTS with no real grand strategy, I don’t think that counts as a ‘map game’.

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            I know that they are quite different, my point was that I don’t play those more complex games and usually prefer other genres. StarCraft was an example of that while limiting it to the Strategy genre as a whole.

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              Sorry, I didn’t fully read all of the comments you’d made before, and my inner nerdsplaining came out.

              That and I’ve been awake for… 36 hours now? Hooray for incredible pain.

              That being said, StarCraft is great!

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                Oh, I was just answering the comment, didn’t realize I made the “limiting to strategy as a whole” remark in a different one.

                Well, after 36 hours it’s well about time to finally get some sleep.

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      Big maps, little movement, lots of stuff to track; Hearts Of Iron is made for folks like you and me.

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        Nah, a 4’x6’ table is a big enough map for me most days.
        I’m more of a Total War gamer than something like Heart of Iron anyways. Or better yet: some good old Starcraft, if we limit it to strategy alone.

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        Ottoman’s get free unit production with military schools as well as faster production in blacksmith influence. Also producing units and ageing up gives your expirence towards vizier points, which can unlock special bonis.

        The Byzantines get the cistern system which increases gathering rate and can be toogled to eithe faster production or research speed. On top of that they get an additional resource, olive oil which they passivly produce from food gathering and can be used to purchase mercenary units from other factions.

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        The difference between what?

        Those map games and shoving little plastic soldiers over the table top?
        Those map games are huge, having many armies on the map and managing your state. While shoving soldiers over the table top usually just involves your one army with no state management at all and the map just consisting of the game you are playing.

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            The context is also my comment you replied to. Didn’t know what difference you meant.

            To make it simple: the Orthodox Christian Byzantine Empire was the eastern Roman Empire that continued on after the western Roman Empire went under.

            The Ottoman Empire is the Muslim Empire that took over after the Byzantine Empire got conquered.

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    Here in europe both are taught in elementary school.

    Edit: spelling

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      Not in all of Europe, they completely ignored everything west of Germany in the medieval period here.

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        But both are east of Germany, so why are they ignored? Or did you mean that they only focused on stuff that happened west of Germany?

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          Yeah, could have written that clearer I suppose. China only started existing during the rise of communism for example.

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        Whereas they ignored everything East of France over here.

        Actually, I went to school in Scotland so our teachers also tried to ignore everything south of the border too.

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          “Today we’ll learn about the Picts”. I went to school in Iceland, they taught us a lot of Icelandic history and only allocated one week to 600 years of legalised slavery.

          People were not property in Iceland, but, if you didn’t have enough land to support something like 3 cows you were forced to go into service of a farmer for a year. During that year you could leave and die, go to another farm and hope they have food for you or die or swap and get beaten up for not working all waking hours and only maybe die.

          The church backed the people up when Iceland was Catholic but with protestantism land was transferred to Denmark and then leased to the farm-archy (agrarchy?).

          Iceland was poorer than Romania 120 years ago because fishing villages were illegal. All fishing was property of the farmer that was the current master of the person. They also made law that banned people from getting married without permission of the farmer and supposedly there was a lot of gay sex back then.

          I found out about this when I was 30 lol.

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    It does not. Why do you think all the rich people resort to drugs and shit? They’re just chasing that dragon because they’ve forgotten what it’s all about.