The site has been seemingly defaced yet again, by another account called RedArcher9, who joined around 9 hours ago as of the time of this post. The banner’s image of the user has been provided in the post. This is the first thing I read when I was made aware of their urgent promotion of the “new edits to the site’s history”: “ProleWiki often serves as a ‘gateway’ for Communists to be indoctrinated into chauvinistic and revisionary ideology, with the site actively promoting ‘Patriotic Socialist’ and other social-chauvinist points of view and allowing users of those persuasions into the project.”
I didn’t read the rest of their horseshit because I have other things I would rather occupy my time with than the same trend of erasing and re-writing history which the US already does at scale.
I don’t know the current policies for allowing people to become editors, but this game of cat and mouse with Wisconcom has become very tiresome. I propose a freeze on the creation or promotion of accounts to have edit permissions, and restrict such promotion to only those who have been around (for a good while) and earned the trust of the Lemmygrad netizens. This will make it a lot more expensive for them to pull this crap. In order to have an account that can edit the wiki, I also suggest that person open a People’s Court case and have everyone (minus accounts that are obviously fake accounts or suspicious based on how new they are and what they’ve been up to) come to a consensus based on the user’s credibility and history of contribution to Lemmygrad. If anyone has any thoughts to offer in good faith, I encourage you to leave feedback. I think it’s time to put a stop to this bullshit.
lmao okay wisconcom. Thanks for outing your alt account you’ve been cultivating for 5 months.
Reasons this account was wisconcom:
- instantly knows who defaced prolewiki, like they went into the edit history which nobody ever does lol
- talks like wisconcom
- “The site has been seemingly defaced yet again” this is the only time wisconcom has been allowed in and defaced PW. He has tried getting accounts in the past, but they were all refused. Account requests are not public. Only he would know about this.
- Same with “but this game of cat and mouse with Wisconcom has become very tiresome”, we don’t talk about him ever.
- “I propose a freeze on the creation or promotion of accounts to have edit permissions, and restrict such promotion to only those who have been around (for a good while) and earned the trust of the Lemmygrad netizens.” this is child-level wrecking stuff. a) ProleWiki is wholly independent from Lemmygrad (but wiscon seems to think we’re connected in a love triangle with GZD too) and b) ProleWiki’s policies are an internal matter.
The “Cat and Mouse game” point struck me as particularly odd, as I haven’t heard anyone actually be annoyed by wisconcom, but find their…unique quirks to be very funny.
Fantastic sleuthing work there.
you probably know better than me, but the posts earlier were specifically linked to the edits, you could see who edited it at the top of the page when you clicked the links, you didn’t need to go into the edit history. other points seem valid though lol
It seems Wisconcom is back for the 123456789th time
I have no knowledge of mediawiki but I thought the system would be something like:
- have a small team of core trusted editors
- any user can propose edits
- edits have to be approved by one of the aforementioned editors
- once approved the edits reflect in the page
Infiltration attempts normally never succeed because we have processes in place. In this case, we had let our guard down because Wisconcom had been on a hiatus for a couple months, leaving us alone. I just think it’s more sad than anything that he checks prolewiki every minute of the way, writes changes he wants to make in word documents saved on his hard drive during the 2 months it takes him to get an account approved and commit his vandalisms. It’s sad in the same way an orphaned puppy is sad you know, you feel pity.
I think also the editors need to be brought up on security. In the case of his alt account (also hi wisconcom, I know you’re checking lemmygrad every second of the day too), I raised the issue that the account used a temp email and TOR to request their account. But we still let him in because he got the votes (showing he can actually do actual marxism when he wants to, which is even sadder), and also because some editors pointed out they actually know people who use TOR for normal browsing.
I think the editors are naturally trusting, which is normal and a good thing, but I also think it shows that the administration and intsec group hasn’t communicated enough about this, instead keeping it between ourselves because we didn’t want to bother the editors with it. And of course he’s been going on for so long now (since October 2022) that in that time we’ve had new editors get voting rights who have never even met wisconcom. So overall, we’ve once again improved our security processes and his edits were reverted in minutes lol
I see nothing wrong with this. My concern is whether or not these core editors will need to (potentially) expand, and thus my recommendation on the simplified process of how to go about it. Would edits be proposed in ProleWiki, People’s Court, or another community?
Prolewiki itself
If you mean the ProleWiki site itself (which I believe you did), would these proposals simply be fed into the trusted editors’ feed, not visible by other users?
I’m not sure. I’m not proposing a new system. What I said is that I thought prolewiki would already have a system like this in place to prevent vandalism.
nods
I’ve seen this go on for longer than I care to remember, and today happened to be the final straw. Those of you who are good faith editors work hard on the development of this critical resource, and it’s absolutely unfair and criminal for some narcissistic persistent threat (or advanced persistent threat, depending on their source of income and level of state support) to just waltz on in and start pissing on everything. You all deserve better than having to clean up the messes this type of scum makes. They’ve done nothing but cause trouble, and be a public nuisance. Naturally, an interest in taking away their toys has emerged.
Not sure how feasible this is, but to add another suggestion to the pile users could be limited to 1-2 edits per 24h until they’ve made enough approved edits or something of the sort. That’d at least force them to contribute something of value to keep their ploy up. Also if the People’s Court approval is too public, it might be nice to just have an obligatory field for their account here in the account request for easier vetting.
