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    Headline fix: Google kills the one good thing it has going for it with AI

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      Search sucks for some time now. I’d say the best thing google offers today is Gmail - but there are plenty of arguments against that too.

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        Google Maps, their traffic data has no rivals, unlike gmail which has plenty of good competition. It’s the one thing I couldn’t easily replace yet.

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          True. I wanted to replace it with OSM or similar, but my main use of Maps after navigation is exploring places, reading reviews, and browsing pictures. They have a database that is tough to replace.

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          I prefer OSM since I can use the maps offline. Google maps is useless out in the middle of nowhere without any cell service.

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            Not to discourage usage of OSM at all, but you can absolutely download offline maps on mobile with Google Maps, they’ve just hidden it a bit. If you tap your account icon in the upper right, a menu pops up that includes offline maps, and it’ll let you select boundaries to download.

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            I tried OSM and it completely failed. Downloaded the offline region, loaded it up at home fine. Went to the location and the offline map wouldn’t load. Had a connection and tried to load an online map, nothing. Ended up right back using Google maps. I support the concept of OSM, it just doesn’t work.

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            Which makes it good for hiking, and I’ve found it’s better for bike routes too. However, I can’t easily search for places to go, there’s no recommendations, and generally you need to know the address of the place you’re going to (not just a restaurant/bar etc.).

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            Yes, I also use and highly recommend OsmAnd, great for offline maps, outdoor activities and lots of stuff… but no traffic data.

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            OSM is great for everything non-commercial. Hiking path, finding a playground, public toilets or even the closest with few benches to eat a sandwich.

            But for everything commercial and car navigation google maps is unfortunately much better.

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          I switched away from google maps to Apple Maps a few years ago and I honestly can’t tell any difference. If google maps traffic data is better, it’s not in any noticeable kind of way for regular day to day usage.

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            Honestly Apple Maps is better in my area by a decent margin. It’s up to date sooner and that matters in a rapidly growing city. Google still beats it in search but even then AM finds things it doesn’t at times. i just wish they’d move on from shitty Yelp. I vastly prefer AMs navigation over GM as well.

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            That would require me to buy an iPhone which I won’t do for many many reasons… but ok, maybe Apple Maps is a decent competitor nowadays, good to know.

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          their traffic data has no rivals

          do you mean the waze traffic data, or does google actually have some of its own?

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            or does google actually have some of its own

            every phone running Google’s version of Android with location enabled.

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              And just like their ridiculous chat apps, they have no beneficial feature integration or consolidation between the two.

              Google Maps has the ability to report speed traps and hazards, but none of that data comes from Waze or vice-versa.

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          I only use google maps to find bussinesses. It’s pretty awful for navigating, which is kind of what maps are made for.

          I’ll plug Mapy.cz here. I’ve been using it for about 7 years now. It has even the most obscure paths that you wouldn’t believe would be on a map (at least in Europe) and the bussiness search is alright.

          No idea if it’s based on OSM or is its own thing, but if I were to guess, it is.

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          How good can it be? I’ve been driving 35-40 miles to work and the same back for a year now and Apple Maps tells me what minute I’ll arrive and I usually arrive within 3-5 mins either side.

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        ProtonMail is like the best if you can get if you’re a small user that regularly cleans their inbox and keeps things that matter.

        I never use more than a handful of MBs, so I find 15GB of storage that GMail offers me a bit much. It’s been this way for me for years so ProtonMail does it.

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      Google search is still a very shitty product right now. In a blind test I would never conclude they are the market leader. It used to work a few years ago though.

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        Indeed. They started pushing things that make them profit before the things that you’re searching for. They love the revenue stream but are realizing now that it’s also killing their main product: googling.

        But if they’re moving to AI it will probably be the same, trying to guide you into selling something instead of giving what you want. Microsoft too is trying to paper over their os with ads so you know what direction they’re going.

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          It’s so exhausting. Google “how to do thing” and it’s just dozens of links to webshops that sell barely related products to your search.