Oh man, you’d be surprised how many Latino white supremacists Nazis there are out there.

Context? Like as a threat to AOC or to ICE?

Also, if you have that much clarity of thought you probably should look at getting organized locally. Whatever rage you’re feeling; you are not alone.

Yeah. It really doesn’t have to be political brain rot anymore.

Maybe it’s not in this case…we’ll see. But we’re going to have cases of complete normies going “nothing left to lose” after their loved ones or friends are taken/killed by ICE.

Imagine finding out your partner/kids were taken from their job/school. You can’t. I can’t. There is no law or order that matters to people when the “law and order” are the ones doing it.

And at some point, hopefully, we all realize that those people are the sane ones. The people standing by and watching it happen well…

It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.

I forget who I was listening to or reading that said something like “political doomerism is the last stage of your liberalism before it dies”

Essentially, the point was that as people become radicalized they will learn all of the problems of capitalism and gain class consciousness and then conclude that any action is pointless.

They’ll essentially sit at home, talk about activism, but judge both people working within the system as well as people protesting or demanding change from the system. It’s a way in which a radicalized class conscious person is held in a state of inaction. Essentially making them useless.

It was a good little one sentence summary of those people. I’ll try to remember who said it.

By “left” I’m assuming you mean liberals. “The left” doesn’t really have elected politicians. Unless you count Mamdani and he’s not even fully elected yet.

Someone’s gotta do it eventually. Maybe some radicalized Tesla or SpaceX employee.

So, while I agree with the “vote away Fascism” being bull shit I do still think that working class momentum can be built through wins like Mamdani.

While I wouldn’t normally sympathize with “MAGAts” I would say especially in this case the people that are being hurt the most our the people I would consider victims of a system of anti-science and anti-education.

We can point the finger at the individuals that choose this (excluding their poor children obviously) but I think it’s unfair to point that finger when the vast majority of them are essentially “children” in terms of their education.

I would sooner judge individual well educated liberals that fall victim to “new age heal yourself remedies” than I would the the highschool dropout in the southern state that “doesn’t trust the government.”

They are both victims to misinformation but one is given significantly less information (and more propaganda) to come to the wrong conclusions.

Idk. I just pitty them more I guess. I just see them as victims to a larger narrative that only benefits the ruling class. I can’t really bring myself to place blame on them. Only pitty.

If the blame for measles resurgence can be put on a few idiots. Then, well, society has failed. There is no scenario in which a handful of people can cause that. It is a systemic problem that needs to be reflected on.

While I wouldn’t normally sympathize with “MAGAts” I would say especially in this case the people that are being hurt the most our the people I would consider victims of a system of anti-science and anti-education.

We can point the finger at the individuals that choose this (excluding their poor children obviously) but I think it’s unfair to point that finger when the vast majority of them are essentially “children” in terms of their education.

I would sooner judge individual well educated liberals that fall victim to “new age heal yourself remedies” than I would the the highschool dropout in the southern state that “doesn’t trust the government.”

They are both victims to misinformation but one is given significantly less information (and more propaganda) to come to the wrong conclusions.

I mean the average person in the professional/managerial class is not Che. The entire point is to analyze it from material incentives. That is the tools of dialectical materialism that we have at our disposal.

The material interests of the professional class aligns with the capitalist class. I’m in that class technically. I’m a well paid software engineer that gets a large portion of my pay in stock. I’m doing well.

I know that my material interests are aligned with the success of capital. I have to make a conscious choice to be a class traitor and work against my own material interests. And that’s easier for me. I’m not even a manager or a landlord.

You’re kind of proving my point using an example like Che. He literally was educated into Marxism through personal experience throughout motorcycle diaries.

The average person in the professional/managerial class is not like me and definitely not like Che.

The UN has no power against the United States. The UN was setup to favor western powers and ideally prevent them from having direct war with one another again. Until the US bombs another Western country in the UN there is so reason to look to the UN for anything but empty condemnation.

He’s essentially calling you a Nazi and apparently you’re too stupid to understand that.

Imperialism and Settler colonialism create war in the middle east.

Sure. My point wasn’t that. My point is that there are still a not insignificant amount of people that are a part of the professional/managerial class who’s material interests align with that of the ruling capitalist class of billionaires.

There is still a portion of “working” people that benefit enough from neoliberalism that they continue to believe that capitalism is a fair system that benefits hard work.

There absolutely are. There are a lot of people at the top (not even billionaires) that are making tons of money as the working class suffer.

I mean if you’re gonna reply with such little substance just don’t reply at all mate.

You know when you think someone is wrong you should probably provide evidence or reason for WHY you think that?

Just saying “wrong” is what Trump does.

If Mamdani loses the general that should be a wake up call to Americans that even the illusion of their democracy is dead. The man behind the curtain isn’t even hiding anymore.

Meaning, if Mamdani loses it is only because the full forces of the capitalist class from both of their parties were able win.

You seem to think that there is some major difference between New York and some southern town in Georgia for example. And to many degrees there are. But it’s not because the people have fundamentally different wants and goals. The people throughout this country want a good job, a place to live, healthcare, and an end to wars of the empire. The major difference between them is how their concent is manufactured.

The difference isn’t in policy or even in politics. The difference is in the ability to break through the existing lies they are distracted by. Racism, xenophobia, queerphobia, etc.

Most working class people in America will be open to progressive policies when they see them actually implemented successfully in major blue cities.

I’m not saying to run as a socialist in Savannah, GA. I’m saying that we do not give away ground. We continue to push for further leftists politicians like Mamdani where we can win. And that will literally shift the entire nations politics.

These are the only wins we can hope for in electoral politics right now. Because by the time we’re voting for another president it’s going to be to late. The fascist state will have been fully established.

Yeah. We should keep running more milk toast politicians with vague policies like “affordability” or “abundance” (I think that’s their new term for more neoliberalism now) that’ll show em!

Dude, free busses, rent control, and public grocery stores are not some “far left” policy. They are standard in much of the world.

The Democratic party is the failure that it is today BECAUSE they tried to convince you that democratic socialist policies would not win. They do. Fucking Kentucky has a publicity owned and operated Internet provider. There is nothing radical or far left about Mamdani’s policy plans.