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  • No we have to outlaw polluting and create alternatives. Making it expensive allows rich people and corporations to continue polluting.

    Cigarettes and alcohol are banned from certain public spaces, not just made expensive. You can’t smoke in schools, trains, hospitals and in some countries you can’t smoke in the streets. You’re not allowed to drive drunk, work drunk and in the US even openly carry alcohol afaik. IMO punishment for drunk driving should be higher and cigarettes should be banned everywhere in public.

    Making cigarettes expensive does not help the addicts, it just costs them more money. Meanwhile the tobacco lobby still creates ads, still makes money off creating addicts and ruining public health. Cheap alcohol similarly has an effect on poorer people who have to spend more to have some fun, while addicts pay what they need to and rich people don’t care about the taxes on whiskey and wine because their bottles are ridiculously expensive anyway.






  • I agree that we need regulation. But I think you also discount the effects of individual consumption.

    In the long-ish term, the animal farming indistry has to go. It cannot be made sustainable, no matter how you regulate industry. It’s just a waste of resources. So at some point you as an individual have to adapt to a vegan diet, either by choice or because there is no alternative. What will it be? Do you want to stop eating meat the moment it is outlawed?

    People who cling to eating meat nowadays actively oppose regulation. Otherwise they couln’t eat meat. There is still a demand. We need both regulation to end animal farming and convince individual consumers, that they have to become vegans. It’s the masses who have the most power. If veganism came from the majority population, it would be far easier to regulate industry.