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Remember when they got mad after Trump said “I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn’t lose any voters”? They said it was cult-like behavior by his followers.

But when Biden bombs children, or backs a genocide, it’s somehow not cult-like behavior to keep supporting him.

awesome, I’ll check that out

Chris Crawford was talking about this problem in 1992 and we still haven’t learned anything

The Dragon Speech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBrj4S24074

I couldn’t find a transcription, and it covers a lot more than education, but it’s a good speech. The relevant part starts at ~12:45

eh, it’s fine. They are allowed to disagree. I just wish they’d do it in a constructive way rather than yelling at people. It’s obviously not something for you to be sorry about.

I forget where I heard the quote, but:

Stack Overflow is a great place to find answers. Stack Overflow is a terrible place to ask questions.

Yeah, Biden won after the DNC rigged the election in favor of their candidates. Prior to that, Sanders was doing pretty good. Polling also had Sanders doing pretty good in red states.

Yes, the south is super racist, I know first hand. And I agree that the south would have been an uphill battle for Bernie, but I think he could have won despite having the south against him. Now it’s too late, and it’s just speculation.

But none of that takes away from the fact that the Democrats keep putting up terrible candidates that nobody wants. Look at the polling and votes for Harris, Biden, and Hillary. They did terrible, and it wasn’t a surprise to anyone. The Dems need to pick better, or they are gonna keep losing.

Or… It could be placed on the supposedly opposition party, who ran unpopular candidates on unpopular platforms. Maybe they should have tried to fight against Trump, instead of trying to co-opt his policies.

The math also doesn’t lie about 3rd parties: If we had all voted for Harris (and that’s a big if), the Dems still wouldn’t have won. The math also doesn’t lie about the Dems: They ran two terrible campaigns, that even Democratic voters stayed home on, rather than support. A bunch of people who voted for Biden ended up voting for Trump in this election. That’s on the Dem leadership.

I completely own up to my vote, and it’s consequences. I wish the Dems would do the same.

Yes, Sanders is a great example. The guy that the DNC literally had to put their finger on the scale to overcome. The guy that polled better than Trump in red states.

I have lived all over the country: The coasts, the middle, the south. I know plenty of people in red states that don’t like Trump, but don’t see the Democrats putting out a candidate that they like. Maybe if the Democrats tried to differentiate themselves from Trump, instead of chasing his policies, they’d do better.

Yeah, and I don’t support Trump. In fact, I voted against him. I’m not sure what your point is.

…chose to squabble over a party not being perfect…

Looking at the party for the last few years, I see: Choosing a rapist, child-killing, genocide supporter as the candidate. Gaslighting everyone on the cognitive abilities of said candidate. Continuously screwing over the working class. Gaslighting everyone on the state of the economy. Bailing out their rich friends, while telling the poor and homeless that they need to suck it up. Propping up the fascist that beat them as their opponent. Bombing innocent people. Saying that they would be harder on immigrants than the fascist. Helping build a stupid border wall. Increasing funding to violent assholes that attack the working class. Picking unpopular candidates and running on right-wing values.

I feel like that is a far cry from “not being perfect”

That’s the opposite of what I saw. I’m not saying that you are wrong, just that I saw differently. I saw Democrats spend most of their time saying that it’s not OK to attack the current Democratic president. I wonder how much of that difference is based on the circles we run in, or the news sites that we visit.

Well, maybe the Democratic leadership should have fought against all of that, instead of helping it along.

Well, I didn’t help it along, and I didn’t stay home, I voted against them. So I did fight against it. And the Democrats low approval because of their bad president, bad governance, bad campaigns, and bad candidates were probably the reason that a part of that third stayed home. I’ve also never said there is no difference between both sides.

You keep saying untrue things, and they still aren’t true. Maybe you should start saying true things.

They did tho. Trump is one of, if not the least popular president we’ve ever had. Are you telling me that the Democrat’s really tried their best, and couldn’t find anyone that was more likeable than him?

I did vote against Trump, but I also voted against Harris. I did that because, unlike you, I didn’t want genocide or fascism.

Well, I don’t fight against fascism and genocide because I think I’m going to win. I fight against fascism and genocide because I think they are evil.

Speaking of not understanding math: If every 3rd party voter changed and voted for the Democrats, they still wouldn’t have won. They gave up the election when they could have easily won it. But feel free to keep leaving sarcastic remarks here against those that hate fascism and genocide, instead of trying to fix your low approval-rated party.

Of course I’m russian. It couldn’t possible be that I am against the murder of the innocent, or against rapists, or against open corruption, or against torture and imprisonment. I can only point out the obvious failings of the party with terrible approval ratings because I’m a foreign agent.

But I didn’t support fascism. I voted against it. And I told the Democrats that it was unpopular and they didn’t care.

And yes, genocide is one out of a hundred other policies that I don’t support the Democrats because of. Maybe bombing kids, or bankrupting people with hospital bills, or imprisoning people for life for minor crimes, or deporting immigrants, or supporting rapists isn’t a big deal to you, but it is for me.

I didn’t “let” Trump win, I voted against him. The Democrats handed the election to him because they valued genocide and money more than they valued fighting fascism. The Democrats openly bombed the shit out of kids world-wide. Do you think they were happy with you when Biden was bombing them? or do you think they cursed as they were dying?

A Democrat win would have resulted in the delaying of fascism, and the propping up of fascist tools. As I’ve already said multiple times, I voted against fascism. Even if me and all of the other 3rd party voters voted Democrat, fascism still would have won because the Democrats didn’t have enough votes. They chose genocide and money over stopping fascism.

So feel free to keep defending the party that chooses to bomb children, supports genocide, support fascists, supports rapists, supports corruption, fights against the working class, imprisons minorities, and tortures people.