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  • Hello! It’s great that you’re committed to libre software principles and already using Libreboot.

    Proprietary blobs in the kernel.org Linux kernel can indeed pose risks. These blobs are nonfree, meaning they can’t be audited or modified by the community. This leaves users dependent on vendors, and there’s always the potential for vulnerabilities or backdoors. Linux-libre removes these blobs entirely, ensuring your system runs only software that respects your freedom and can be fully audited.

    While the stock kernel benefits from frequent updates and broad testing, Linux-libre is a downstream fork of Linux. This means it incorporates all technical improvements, bug fixes, and security patches from the stock kernel, minus the proprietary blobs. You get the best of both worlds: security and freedom.

    A quick note about Libreboot: while it strived to be 100% free in the past, many devices still rely on proprietary components like microcode updates. If you’re aiming for full transparency, it’s worth checking if your hardware depends on these since Libreboot did chose to make compromises and support them with nonfree blobs. This don’t lessen its value, as the project still makes the computing world more free, but it’s something to consider as Libreboot is not entirely libre anymore for every board. For instance, every computer it supports has now nonfree microcode updates. You may consider using Canoeboot or GNU Boot instead.


  • I understand your perspective, but I think there’s a deeper context to consider about Linux-libre. The project’s goal isn’t just about making hardware work or not. It’s about promoting software freedom and raising awareness of the reliance on proprietary firmware, and help people to be certain that never nonfree software is installed on hardware without them knowing.

    Yes, Linux-libre disables dynamic firmware loading, which can render some devices non-functional. But that’s not a flaw in Linux-libre itself; it reflects the larger issue that many hardware vendors don’t provide free firmware. Linux-libre isn’t against firmware per se, but it draws a line against proprietary blobs to encourage transparency and community-driven solutions. It tolerates non-updatable on-device firmware because it’s unavoidable for now (pragmatism), but the ultimate aim is to promote hardware that doesn’t rely on non-free programs at all.

    Regarding security patches, it’s true that proprietary firmware can bring updates, but it also comes with risks: you can’t audit or modify it, and you depend entirely on the vendor. With free firmware, the community can audit and improve it openly, creating more trustworthy systems.

    However, when it comes to assert that Linux-libre removes warnings about the use of vulnerable firmware, well, this claim lacks specific evidence. The Linux-libre project focuses on removing proprietary components and does not typically alter security warnings related to firmware. In fact there usually is a “Missing free firmware” message that you can find reading dmesg output.

    So, while Linux-libre might not be for everyone, it’s more than a technical project. This is an ethical stance for a freer and more transparent computing future. If anything, it highlights the real issue: the need for manufacturers to provide free firmware.


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    Well in fact, that’s not true they follow the same philosophy. See the GNU Boot talk at 38c3, but tldw is that canoeboot advocates for Libreboot and against RYF and so on. Btw, GNU Boot maintainers are quite active (see also the repo, I’m one of them).

    GNU Boot is not against canoeboot as such, but Leah Rowe hasn’t the same philosophy (and does not follow FSDG)