The Deepal S07 offers super value and I gather will still remain competitive even with a bloated price tag. Curious how the HUAWEI software will adapt to Europe.

The Deepal S07 offers super value and I gather will still remain competitive even with a bloated price tag. Curious how the HUAWEI software will adapt to Europe.

They’re willing to take short-to-medium losses as it’s about survival. 38% of VW sales were in China last year, and they just can’t afford to give up market share for good. They have, and have to burn the cash.

The Japanese though seem to have largely given up. While VW was busying upping its game in China, all Toyota did was assigning the bz4X a Chinese name…

Yes, like I said in another thread. Even at such low asking prices, they’re not competitive enough in China for what they’re offering. The ID.3, 4 and 6 have to be heavily discounted further in order to sell. The ID.7 is running straight into half a dozen of 800v-capable, LiDAR equipped Chinese sedans and is considered by the Chinese media to be obsolete even before release. Believe it or not, it will not fare well for $33k, as we shall see soon.

The point is they’re updating the models and upping the competition in China at unmatched pace. Chinese makers today typically build a new EV, from scratch to serial production, within 24-36 months. Seems like VW has realized that they really have to put R&D there and navigate the extensive local supply chain to just keep up with that and stay in the game.

TBH the Han is getting long in the tooth. I bet a Han L is on the horizon.

I’m sure though it won’t get much market share at this price. Madness is going on in China.

Less powerful motor. 150kw for China while 210kw for Europe.

Not gonna resonate well among consumers.

The big subsidies ended last year. What remains is 100% tax exemption for BEV and occasional regional subsidies for $1,000-2,000, but neither get to be written as MSRP.

This simulator may help you get an idea on how cheap an EV can get by manufacturing in and sourcing from China. As usual, it’s cheaper land, logistics, storage, energy, labor, plus the unparalleled economy of scale AND extremely fierce competition working here.

People can bury head in sand believing it’s “just cheap labor, IP theft and cutting corners”. Well, the deeper they’re entrenched in the idea, the further they’ll be left behind.

Oh, too late. ZPMC already dominates US ports. The nation will paralyze if you try to force them out, no joke.

Ah well, a lot developing nations have to build a functioning grid in the first place…

This new wave of Chinese minivans shows that they’re finally stepping out of the shadow of the Toyota Alphard. Good for them.