Funny how they left out blatant police brutality like this

You missed the overpriced and underpowered part. In the EU, the pinephone pro cost 600€, the same as the fairphone 6, and it’s significantly worse in every single way. Even if it actually worked, who in their right mind would pay that much for a device that’s going to run out of ram as soon as you open a few tabs in Firefox?

They base a lot of their development on the community though. So if the community isn’t up to it, then virtually no one at Pine64 is.

I doubt they’ll be fixing anything since they seem to have stopped selling them.

Also, if we go by their track record with the pinetime, PRs fixing basic functionality will be left open for years. Like how they can’t be bothered to accept fixes allowing the stopwatch to run in the background and not reset when you get a notification, let alone QoL improvements like being able to tell the time on your watch while the stopwatch is running.

I was on board the Fairphone hype, and while I think they have a good message, I actually think Pine64 does exactly what they do - just without the flashy marketing.

Exactly what they do, except it’s not a functional product. “Overpriced, underpowered, and half-finished” is the motto of pine64.

Answer to both 1 and 2: start with an Emacs “distro” like Doom Emacs or Spacemacs. Starting from scratch as a beginner is a surefire way to quit.

Zoxide: z ds

If the tool count rivaled a medium sized Victorinox with the same form factor

It’s not a SAK though. The tools are bigger and more sturdy, you can flick the knife, and there’s a tool deployment mechanism. I’d say it’s more comfortable over all.

However, you’re limited to just 5 tools plus a bit driver.

5 slots, some tools take up more than 1.

My NixOS config works this way

nixos-rebuild switch --upgrade for system package upgrades and config changes

home-manager switch for user package updates and config changes

lemon soda

How bout you squeeze a lemon and mix the juice with soda water?

Great points about learning, but I’m just explaining what my original comment was about: daily experience of using a distro and reliability.

For me arch installation was the most educational Linux experience since after 10+ years of using Linux, that was the first time I clearly understood each part of the system. But tbh that knowledge has so far been mostly academic - knowledge for the sake of knowledge.

All this comparing and inter-distro warring seems pointless.

It’s got a point when every thread has people recommending arch, even when it’s not relevant in any way. We’re talking about arch in a thread about a nixos guide after all.

But there is in nixos you donkey…

There’s not a lot of competition in the bleeding edge rolling distro space, so I think it’s fair to compare them. Especially since you’re not forced to make it reproducible.

I wouldn’t suggest either to beginners either though.

I’m talking about day to day usage. Arch installation is a good learning experience, but running it for me was more trouble than it’s worth.

The worst issue I’ve had so far with nix is an update failing before it’s applied because of some package. Meanwhile arch would regularly update, and then fail to boot or break something.

I gave up on arch after a few years when I had to literally weigh whether -S or -Syu would be more likely to mess up my system while I was working abroad.

Got a lot of use for DE and other gui related modules in that usecase? Are you spinning up KDE to build a container? Did you write to the devs that they remove the installation wizard for desktop use? Did they accidentally add all of the non-reproducible imperative commands to nix?

Get over yourself. It’s a great distro for desktop use, and I seriously don’t get why you’re foaming at the mouth because people are using it differently than you…

Nixos > arch without a doubt

This…is not what this project represents or is meant for. Christ.

What do you think nixos is for?

That’s literally all it’s good for… reproducible builds.

Tell me you didn’t run nixos without telling me you didn’t run nixos

It’s based on FOSS designs, so you can DIY them for far less money.

https://github.com/foostan/crkbd

https://github.com/davidphilipbarr/Sweep

An actual Linux distro has option like flatpak, nix, distrobox

I don’t get that one, especially putting Ukraine and Poland in the same bag.

Your face when it boots after an update

The question is whether the lightning is staying in the wires or not