Any chance vtc will also turn off up votes some time in the future?

Stop trying to make him sound cool.

Cool post.

amber is the color of its energy!

running a “second seat” on a different F key like in the link might be a good way to do that.

back in the day i would just log out and log in. there’s so much going on with desktop environments i kinda had to spend some time in one doing my daily to figure out if it was what i wanted.

in order to make it easier to track all this, i’ve got a spoiler block with links to the posts you referenced and my responses to them. it’s at the bottom of this post. there’s four, two of them were replies made to people other than me and one was a top level comment. the fourth and biggest one is a conversation i’m in, responding to the other person and engaging with what they say in good faith.

so no, i’m not ignoring everyone who’s responded to me, and i’m not ignoring you.

in order to keep this from descending into minutae, i’ve recognized a few broad responses to “i’m voting third party”:

“You can’t win and winning is all that matters.”

“You can’t have any effect.”

“You’re gonna spoil it.”

the first is false, the second and third contradict each other and are also false.

If you think there’s a broad type of argument against voting third party that i missed, let me know.

since i never got to actually break this one out: if the democrats want my vote, they can adopt the policies i want.

I think people who claim “a vote for x is a vote for trump” are just trying to shame me into voting for their candidate using manipulation and falsehood. they usually don’t respond or give up that tack when i say “no, that’s not how it works”, so i don’t know what they actually mean because i never get to really dive into it. feel free to dive into it.

you wrote about spoiler effects using popular vote, but we’re talking about the electoral college, so that’s pretty moot. seems like its hard to blame candidates losing on the spoiler effect rather than the electoral college being fundamentally undemocratic.

So you have a lot of suggestions in this thread.

I have an unconventional one:

Red hat.

You can use it for free as long as you register on their website.

The benefit: lots of documentation, a significantly different way of thinking about things (it asks you to define a compliance posture out of the box lol) and a package manager that does a lot of things right.

You said yourself youve been in the game for a while. Why not try being agent smith instead of neo?

It’s helpful to in this case to say what you’re actually trying to do.

I don’t think you want multiseat, but I did something similar with x back in the day using a configuration for users similar to what’s described here.

Note that that isn’t what you asked for. It’s having multiple x sessions on different f1, f2 etc keys.

The data is stored in little ccd cells. It’s recorded as an analog voltage. There is no difference between analog voltages and digital voltages, I’m just using the word analog to establish that the potential is a domain that can vary continuously.

When you read the data, the levels of the voltages are checked and translated to the digital information they represent.

To determine the level of a voltage, a small amount of current is allowed to flow between the two points being measured. It’s a very small amount. Microamps and less.

When you draw current from a charge carrying device the charge, as represented by the potential between its negative and positive terminals, the voltage, decreases.

When the controller in the ssd responsible for reading voltages and assembling them into porno.mov doesn’t get a clear read, it asks again. As the ssd ages, parts of it can be re queried hundreds of times just to get commonly read information into memory like system files.

So the ssd degrades on read, and the user experiences this as “slowness”.

Would rewriting the data fix this problem? Yes. Using either badblocks -n, dd or a program called spinrite, rewriting the data fixes that problem.

Why doesn’t the ssd just do it? Because the ssd only has so many write cycles before its toast. Better to rely on the user or more accurately the host os to dictate those writes than to take on that responsibility.

Yes. They also slowly take longer to access their data with every read.

I’m not against taking part in elections.

When I brought up theory of power it wasn’t to handwave away the strategic value of participating in elections, but to specifically critique the lack thereof on the part of the greens.

Winning an election isn’t enough. Simply participating in an election as a voter, party member or organizer or official is also not enough.

Under a theory of worker power like what we see from looney lefties of yore and today, election participation in all these roles is useful because it builds worker power and unity.

There isn’t anything that meets your criteria.

Optical suffers from separation, hard drives break down, ssds lose their charge, tape is fantastic but has a high cost of entry.

There’s a lot of replies here, but if I were you I’d get last generation or two’s lto machine from some surplus auction and use that.

People hate being told to use magnetic tape, but it’s very reliable, long lived, pretty cost effective once you have a machine and surprisingly repairable.

What few replies are talking about is the storage conditions. If your archive can be relatively small and disconnected then you can easily meet some easy requirements for long term storage like temperature and humidity stability with a cardboard box, styrofoam cut to shape and desiccant packs (remember to rotate these!). An antifungal/antimicrobial agent on some level would be good too.

If you think I’m ignoring the facts, lay them out.

If the case is as straightforward and clear as you say it is then you’re a copy-paste away from converting someone away from voting third party.

Actually talk to me about this instead of calling me names.

Now there is the possibility that I’m not seeing a surfeit of replies because someone’s defederated from my instance, but I think in that case they wouldn’t see my comments and be able to reply to them.

No, but I’m beginning to suspect that you don’t.

Do you think effects outside of winning a particular race are made up?

Do you think the way to build representation is to work at the grassroots level except for in elections?

So do the simultaneous edges my vote gives both Harris and trump cancel out or explode?

Before you asked about the article, I asked how third party votes are the same as trump votes. I explained that the votes aren’t counted for trump so they can’t be the same and that they are counted so they’re not thrown away.

Instead of asking incredulously if I’d read the posted article, why not just engage with what I’m saying?

if you think you have a coherent explanation how third party is throwing ones vote away i’ll ilsten.

it seems like most people rely on “your party can’t win” and dont engage with how there are effects outside winning involved with american elections. i also get a lot of accusations of helping trump win that break down under the slightest questioning.

Wait how is it throwing my vote away? The ballot is tallied for my preferred party. The ballot doesn’t give trump an edge because it isn’t cast for trump.

By your logic that same third party ballot gives Harris an edge and the two edges combine and cancel out. Or explode. Or something.

How am I to blame for trumps ostensible victory when I don’t vote for him? Are all voters to blame just like me? Are democratic strategists who author Harris’ rightward move to blame? Is Harris herself to blame in the case of a trump victory?

lol. Two party-ailures btfo