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Cake day: June 14th, 2023

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  • evidence-based

    And all the evidence shows that, as the US is currently, voting for third-parties hurts you far more by allowing the major party that least represents you to win. You can’t claim to adhere to “evidence” if you don’t acknowledge that fact.

    Also, I’m going to let you in on a little secret: I don’t want any of the current third parties to win. None of them are serious beyond being spoilers for the major parties- they don’t host voter drives, they don’t campaign for local and state elections, they don’t do anything for four years then show up and expect to have the same shot as the major parties.

    I’m perfectly happy voting for a party to win who agrees with 60% of what I want than getting 0% of what I want, because it’s the rational choice to make.







  • How did this one go from leftists in the early 2000’s who thought Bush and Cheney ignored intelligence to let it happen to unhinged conspiratorial right wingers spouting the same bullshit.

    The exact same way that both the left and the right agree that Epstein didn’t kill himself, except one side thinks the AG of the then-current President who oversaw the DoJ and had connections to Epstein was responsible, and the other side thinks the presidential candidate that lost to Trump and retired from politics and has zero connections to the administration of the prison did it.


  • Nobody is saying the US system can’t be changed to accommodate third-parties.

    What they are saying is that third-parties aren’t viable the way things are now.

    You can’t elect third parties to change the system; the system has to be changed to elect third parties. Until then, voting for a third party is wasting a vote and advocating for others to do so is telling them to vote against the major party that is both more likely to win and also the one that more closely represents their values.

    The exception, of course, is if one of the major parties suffers an implosion like the Whigs did in the mid-1800s. But the Dems are more unified than ever and the Republicans are brainwashed by right-wing media, so I don’t see that happening any time soon.