idk i think im just going to return it and keep using my note 10 tbh.

Yeah I tried this and I couldn’t tell the difference at all.

Not that unlikely

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frankly i uninstalled all of them so i dont exactly remember, but i do remember facebook was one of them.

I also have to say… im really really not liking this phone just in general. the touch screen or perhaps the software is buggy as hell, like 30% of my swipes don’t actually do anything and just result in a jittery animation playing without switching screens or scrolling or pulling up or down the app tray. It’s fucking annoying, my 5 year old note 10 never had this problem even one singular time. Not only that, but you cant hide the gesture hint permanently stuck to the bottom of the screen… something i’ve been able to do on my note 10 since the day I got it years ago. I think I’m going to return this POS.

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I think that the point cis woman make is that trans men who transitioned after puberty have different things going on with their bodies that cannot or will not be changed no matter how much work or change is done and then the concern is that a bad actor then has the average strength of a male (the general point of view being that sex-males are “generally stronger” than sex-females) will have a physical advantage that a potential female bad actor would (generally) not have. I think that is a valid concern for cis women to have I believe it is a valid discussion to be had. I will not dismiss their point of view or arguments. Plus, not all trans women are women that have transitioned - so imagine a bad actor with sexually abusive intentions, now a trans man without transition surgery is still capable of getting a cis women pregnant when a bad actor cis women cannot. I also think this is at a valid concern worth at least listening to. I don’t think you can ethically just disregard these concerns.

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I’m not exactly sure what you mean. I try to treat other people well as much as I can. Doesn’t mean I’m going to get back into contact with abusive and negletful parents that did serious long term damage and pain to me with lifetime consequences that I now have no say over.

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It’s the internet. I think it’s reasonable to say that people should be able to say things in whatever way they want to say it in. You can be serious and take part in a serious discussion, or you can joke around and not take things seriously. I think trying to constantly force everyone to speak like some chivalrous knight in shining armor gets tiring real damn fast on the internet and I think banning people for saying things ‘the way they say it’ is just an easy and convenient excuse to silence them because you don’t like the content of what they have to say.

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you might be right. i’d find it more funny if it were remotely possible that this could be the actual response though. as of now though, across all lemmy instances, the thread with the most comments has 1.2k comments, which is like an average popularish reddit thread on any given day.

mine came with facebook preinstalled 😝

1. awesome thanks for educating me
2. no I am not, I personally know trans people and I have nothing against them whatsoever. You’re just unwilling to admit that other people can have valid opinions other than your own if it doesn’t immediately fit into the view of the ideal world you have in your head. You fail to realize that other people have their own ideas of a what an ideal world looks like, or you just don’t consider their views to be valid, in which case you are doing the very same thing to them that you are accusing them of. So what it then comes down to is the need for a discussion between the two opposing groups to figure out what to do and how to reconcile. For the record, I don’t have a personal opinion on who should use what bathroom, I was merely stating that if cis woman feel that sharing that space with trans women is not safe or ideal for them then they should have the right to express that opinion, be heard and have a discussion on it. What you want to do is pretend you are not acting like a fascist while telling them to shut up and just live it and not express their opinion. What I am doing is saying that both ends of the spectrum should be heard there.

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