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  • Senokir@lemmy.mlOPtoLemmy Support@lemmy.mlFinding the right instance
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    1 year ago

    Yeah, we’re essentially in complete agreement. As far the irl Nazi example, I know it isn’t a perfect analogy because as you mention it isn’t possible to avoid that physical interaction unless I either avoid meeting them by restricting myself or by restricting them. To be clear, if I knew that there was a Nazi where I wanted to go then I would happily restrict myself by not going there to avoid them. Do I think that Nazis and their ideals should be openly shunned and even restricted in our society? Absolutely. But in the moment when I have to choose whether or not to approach them I am still happy to go out of my way to avoid them despite I not thinking that should have to in an ideal world. But I digress, irl and online are two different environments with very different rules that limit how they can work as well as different social norms. Fortunately, an online environment does allow me to choose who I want to interact with more easily without restricting myself or the other party as much typically.

    I understand that up until now it’s been a pretty small community with a small team of devs devoting their time to it and that things take time to implement. I’m not in any way trying to say that the devs should have already done this or that I expect it to be done in a week or anything like that. I just want my frustrations and feedback to be known so that priorities can be adjusted if necessary depending on how many people agree with me. And if it was an active decision to not allow users to block instances to have that decision reconsidered hopefully.

    If I can’t find a solution to my problem and there is no interest in creating a solution for an extended period of time then maybe the community just isn’t for me and that’s perfectly okay. I don’t have any illusions that things should always work the way that I want. But if widespread adoption is something that this community is interested in then feedback like this is extremely important I think. Other people will feel the same way as me. I don’t know how many but certainly a percentage of the people that come from reddit will feel this way. And if there is no solution in sight then they will consider leaving just like I am.


  • I understand that people can be rude in any instance. I just believe that there is such a large fundamental difference in philosophy between myself and lemmygrad that it will lead to a much larger percentage of things that I don’t want to see. I’m not afraid to use the block button when I feel like it. I just don’t want to have to do it all the time when I could easily take care of most of my problem by blocking the instance.

    I appreciate your friendly demeanor and advice of disabling upvote visibility but I don’t really mind that at all. It’s not so much social media anxiety in the same way that me not wanting to see a Nazi when I go out in public isn’t social anxiety, it’s just me not liking Nazis.


  • I understand not wanting to be in an echo chamber and exposing myself to things outside of my bubble. That’s precisely why I want to be able to sort by all. I didn’t want to discuss specifics for the sake of not starting an argument (I’d much rather just block the instance altogether than even have this conversation) however, I do not want to interact with people who actively and openly support North Korea taking over South Korea and think Stalin was a swell guy. My beliefs are fundamentally incompatible with people like that even though my interactions with them may not always be inherently bad. If I go out in public and a Nazi holds the door for me, he is clearly trying to do something good in that moment. But quite frankly I’d MUCH rather not have to exist anywhere near that Nazi whether or not he is being nice to me in that moment. I feel the same way about people that think North Korea has a right to the entire Korean peninsula.

    ETA: and to be clear, my issues with lemmygrad don’t end at their support of North Korea and Stalin. Those are just two examples I gave (with North Korea making me feel especially strongly). So please don’t try to argue the actual points of those two things. I have a fundamental disagreement with their philosophy that extends into many areas of discussion. I did go to lemmygrad and spent some some time reading through a bunch of communities and threads so I’m not just basing it off of one guy or something.


  • I didn’t block you. I just didn’t feel the need to respond. My original purpose for the post was about finding an instance that better suited me and you offered suggestions that showed you didn’t read the post and then when you realized afterwards, the only question that I could have possibly wanted to respond to was why I didn’t want to join beehaw which isn’t relevant to why I made the post and I don’t feel the need to justify. The answer could be “I don’t like the little bee mascot guy” (it isn’t) and I would be perfectly justified in my reasoning. I don’t particularly feel like arguing about why I do or do not wish to join beehaw, hence I didn’t respond.


  • I believe that there is a desire that individuals and groups of individuals have to not have to interact with or even view comments of another community. Currently, only communities are able to actually make that desire a reality. If it was good enough to simply ignore all of the comments and pretend like they aren’t there and block every community that I see pop up then why even allow instances to block other instances? They could do the same thing. But of course it makes sense to be able to block other instances because from a UX point of view the user has some desire for a functionality and so the functionality is added. And just like groups of individuals can have a desire to not interact with another community, a single individual can also not want to interact with that other community. Why should I have to deal with constantly blocking new communities and trying to just ignore comments in order to use the site? I would rather just not use the site at all.

    In the short time that I have been here I have seen multiple arguments in the comment sections that have arisen as a result of (in my opinion) lemmygrad users instigating those arguments. I don’t want to be even tempted to join into these arguments by seeing that they exist. And even if I do ignore them all and don’t get rage baited, knowing that they are there has the potential to negatively affect my mood. I will not do that and it would be silly to think that I am alone in feeling like this. Assuming there are waves of people coming from reddit many others will feel this way also and it absolutely will be one of many obstacles that make large scale adoption a challenge.




  • Sure, but I’d like to be able to filter by all as well on occasion to see what the rest of the community is talking about in much the same way that on reddit I sometimes only look at my subscribed subreddits but sometimes use r/popular.

    And as you say it won’t help with comments and from what I can tell after even a short time here, it isn’t uncommon to see lemmygrad users in comments on lemmy.ml so even if I were to only use local/subscribed I would still see content that I don’t want to see by staying here. That could potentially be a temporary solution but clearly means that lemmy.ml is not the right instance for me. I think I might rather just leave Lemmy altogether until there is more adoption and therefore somewhere that suits me better.