Awesome, thank you for the detailed breakdown. Sounds like the system in your area is very well managed. Always nice to hear the things different people/municipalities are trying.

That’s awesome if your town can make that work, is it from tax money or donations? Is it a big town? I would imaging it would be more difficult to maintain the tools the bigger the city/library is

Alright I like the way you think! Now perhaps let’s ahem apply that type of logic to companies? If we fix our corrupt companies they won’t be able to corrupt the government any more.

I would agree that shared resources are more efficient, and you make a great point about the quality aspect. On the other hand, you don’t want walmart monopolizing the carpet cleaners either, as that could bring up the fear of “you’ll own nothing and you’ll be happy” that the tech bros are pushing.

To kinda build on my first comment, we need to get away from the megacorps and their unconstrained hierarchies and replace them with sensible democratically governed cooperatives. I would image a home improvement store run by a local co-op would be a good choice to rent your cleaner from, much better than home cheapo.

Great point, I also think that if we’re more responsible about what we use those technologies for it would also make a huge difference in the environmental impact. If you get rid of all the useless extravagances of the rich we can have a much leaner society resource-wise and still have everyone have a good quality of life.

I genuinely think executives are almost all dead weight once you get high enough in an org but your opinion may differ.

Sure, I mean the wide array of shitty execs we have nowadays certainly. But a strong project leader with the backing of the organization they lead is a powerful combination and I don’t discount it when I think about how things should be run.

In other words, I do think it’s a good idea to have an especially qualified person “in charge” of getting shit done, but our current system of capitalist self-enrichment only works in a “broken clock is right twice a day” sorta way.

honestly I might even have more respect for the AI than the CEO.

That is a crazy stance to take. It’s like saying you prefer Beezelbub over Satan. I mean, you want to give your self-agency over to a machine? Really?

I get the sentiment but do you really want to spend your workday taking orders from an AI? maybe instead we can elect leaders in our companies who are real people and not exploitive monsters

I really do enjoy the Solar Punk aesthetic and the optimism it represents, but when I try to bring people to the reality of things like “we still need solar panel and battery factories” people seem to get upset.

Just to say, I see the reality of what Solar Punk could be and I want to take the practical steps needed. And to be clear, my goal is to make sure that the workers own the solar panel factory, not capitalist investors. I think the solar punk aesthetic, whatever version of it we all decide on, will naturally emerge if we can achieve that.

Yeah I wouldn’t mind an experienced dev taking over the architecture, but I will proceed myself if that person doesn’t come along. If you were worried about it not being applicable outside the US, stuff like the eligible_1099 field could be converted into a “country_config” object or something like that. I’m already planning on supporting all currencies so it would make sense.

In terms of modularity, I’ll have to think about it some more. I’ll spend some time looking into those projects and consulting about it with the LLM today.

Now about that spreadsheet and reddit post. That’s not just something to consider, that’s a person to contact. I would love to see how their ideas have developed in the past 4 years. I’ll have to grab a burner today. Thank you!

To the office, to fight the corpos!

Why not use existing projects? A combination of my specific design requirements not existing anywhere else and my lack of software architecture experience. My background is in systems and organizational theory, and while I have experience in mathematics related programming, this is my first server architecture. So that being said, I’m certainly open to ideas as long as that doesn’t stop it from working right. I am planning on integrating different tools like messaging, and I’ll certainly use something like Continuwuity for that. It’s just that for the core database design it really needs to have a specific integrated schema, at least that’s my opinion. Like I said I’m open to ideas, my goal is to get the project done.

I’m not familiar with ERPNext but it looks interesting. As you pointed out this is US based, so it looks like I would have to take that into account as well.

In terms of sensitive information, the US does have laws about Personal Identifying Information, so the “Party” table has a corresponding “PartyPii” table with information that isn’t subject to audit and can be deleted. Home address, email, phone, etc. It is also stored encrypted, so while I’m sure I don’t have it all figured out yet, these things are on my radar.

In terms of MVP, I will certainly be testing out front-end funtionality as I build it. Start with a login page that accepts a default user and brings you to a dashboard page. Get the accounting going so you can make Journal Entries, etc. Prettymuch going by the “Core Design” section at the start of the README and testing in chunks. But in terms of actually seeing if it meets it’s intended function, unfortunately that comes down to an actual beta version I think. I will need to host it and invite people to participate with “points” instead of money.

Someone over on beehaw suggested Svelte for front-end mock-up so I’ve been playing around with the tutorial. It’s certainly neat. I should be able to get demo pages going without too much trouble, they just won’t look too special.

And yes, I have begun thinking about the day to day. I think non-management members need to have a pretty significant capability with just a mobile version of the pages, since not everyone has an actual computer. But either way I want the information to flow smoothly through the organization.

Thanks for your input!

Yeah I’m a big fan of that instant render. I’m sure I’ll have questions, thanks again

Looks extremely useful I’ll play around with it tonight. Thanks

Just to provide an update, someone in programming.dev suggested docker containers so I am researching that now. Thanks

Just to provide an update, someone in programming.dev suggested docker containers so I am researching that now. Thanks

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Hello everyone, I’m brand new here and this seems like the perfect place to introduce myself.

I applied to join your community so that I can learn about secure network programming and perhaps find collaborators for an ongoing project.

The project is a template for an Articles of Association for a new type of worker’s cooperative. Rather than completely removing hierarchy as traditional cooperatives do, in my model the executive leadership is elected based on their business plan.

I believe that the executive at the top of an operational hierarchy should be legitimized through a popular election enfranchising all stakeholders, a concept I call Hierarchy by Consent. I believe this will lead to more productive and equitable companies. You can read a more detailed description on this Beehaw thread I created.

In order for the Articles of Association to be useful to anyone, there needs to be open-source all-in-one management software because these organizations could become quite complex right from the get-go. For example, it will need secure voting systems. I haven’t officially started on the software yet but my first step will be to create a requirements list.

My background is in mechanical engineering and systems, and I’d consider myself to be an intermediate programmer. I’m comfortable with local programming including database and GUI design but I lack experience with networking.

If anyone has any suggestions on what directions I take in my research, I’m all ears!

Thanks, Juniperus