Thanks :) I should have done it sooner. It was a touch exhausting managing a dozen conversations at once. Have you seen my cute downvote collection? haha

I made the mistake of not just updating my post when I reply to people. My responses are scattered through the post. I encourage you to ctrl-f.

I was getting sidetracked, but thanks to your encouragement I updated the main post.

I really wanted to reply to you but deleted half way in, sorry burning out

I just want basic respect and for you to be literate. Go view lunars answer to see my central point. I’ve answered everything else you have said in other posts here. I’m not going to feed trolls any more.

Your reply is a perfect example of how threads actions are causing toxicity in lemmy.world.

edit: Id just like to point out that at no point does he respond about meta being evil and unworthy to associate with, which is the important part he should be talking about.

I’m just replacing the ok part of my deleted comment, but nothing more than the part about facebook supporting genocide. Facebook/meta encourages genocide by allowing posts to stay active and other things. That’s a big part of why anti meta guys are so serious.

We know the history of Meta. We ignore the history to wait and see.

We don’t have to wait and see? Meta has a proven history.

His write up doesn’t cover the issue my post is about, but it does cover a fair bit. I also worry about fracturing the community but see it differently. If everyone rejected meta or if everyone embraced meta, we would be an unfractured community. Unfortunately we aren’t fully one way or the other. The best part though is that we can split into different instances. My biggest issue is that to my knowledge, on lemmy.world there were no announcements stating intent, and to people like me that means pro-corporate and I need to leave. If they just announced I would have just slowly left without much fuss.

i do realise lemmy isn’t effected that badly compared to mastodon, but the basics still stand.

I really wanted to reply to you but deleted half way in, sorry burning out. most people aren’t responding to what I’m actually saying, but just making massive assumptions half the time. For example I’m not talking about the API, EEE or privacy at all in the slightest.

Us and we can be used strangely by some, you might be reading into it a bit too much, but i also coulda phrased better. we/us as in the refugees of corporate bs from reddit.

Never said a thing about APIs… you shouldn’t make such grand sweeping statements.

As for the average person here, plenty of statistics say that corporate reddit shenanigans and the influx of users happened at the same time, this is simple fact. They got booted off, or chose to come here because of the corporate side of reddit. This is about as simple as simple can be Aldursil. Are you a bot? or just… ya know

it’s good to be cautiously optimistic

I vaguely remember a quote about nazis at a table.

edit: i’m implying that this instance is complicit, nothing about you personally.

Also, i totally agree with upgrading lemmy itself.

They will extinguish us by watering down our uniqueness and incorporate us into them regardless of if we are in a separate unique server like lemmy.world. In the end this instance will become intellectually homogenised with meta while foaming at the mouth with standard twitter/reddit/facebook level hate and outrage over dumb stuff.

I’ve edited the post to show the 4 day old toot I was referencing. We already know they will federate and we already know meta and generic big multinational corps are evil. We have all the evidence we need.

You were abusive with what you said, and just because you were too lazy to fact check doesn’t mean I’m lying or the fact it isn’t known

you are replying to the wrong thread, try reading my post. See how I don’t care about your arguments(I care about your comments, just not the arguments themselves) and only care they they will control the narrative.

You do realise the average person here now is from exiting reddit because they did bog standard corporate things? If they aren’t aware they dislike the corporate part of reddit and like the lemmy part then… well…

The fact that you ask that is exactly what i mean.

edit: The deafening silence is what i was referring to here, my post has an update about what i mean further. I should have fully explained at the time but was going into “answer everyone” overload and cheaped out.

How long does it take to make an announcement for the most important and simple decision one can make? The thing is, they announced quietly that they are allowing federation with threads. Interacting with threads goes against the spirit of us leaving the corporate cesspool of reddit and doesn’t even need a discussion.

They wont. You need to swap instances now that lemmy.world bent the knee to meta.

https://lemmy.world/post/1179031

Be very careful @dominicHillson, you are close to realising that the dumbest 95% of people defaulted to their views and rationalise their surrounding beliefs. The important part is that at no point have they or will they verify their beliefs. They are literally copying others and aren’t aware of it. If you press them most of the time they will get progressively more “uncivil”. There is a reason fascists genocide their enemies and don’t care about honesty or correct language. Power is how you go against nature, and if you are wrong, the only way to “win”.

If you guys want to rebuild your beliefs so they are actually true, you have to start with figuring out what truth is. I know philosophy is a scary and worthless sounding thing, but its literally the attempts to understand things through reason(literally having reasons for believing) and refining those views.

Epistemology is the philosophy of truth and knowledge. Some examples of epistemological thinking are

• Are the people around me a reliable way to determine truth? ex. In a Hindu region, the average person will vouch for Hinduism, in an Arabic region, Islam etc etc. Can mutually exclusive things in different regions become simultaneously true just because people around them believe it?
• Are experts a reliable way to determine truth? ex. Blood letting was a common profession, as was astrology.
• Are family members a reliable way to determine truth? ex. one family believes one thing, another believes the opposite.
• Are the most popular people a reliable way to determine truth? ex. Hitler could be argued as a popular person in his area and time, so also could any random influencer.
• Are the most powerful people reliable sources of truth?

You can clearly see a path this takes, so let me give a silly story.

The most popular politician during a debate says “You all trust me and my skill! That’s why I’m popular. The answer to the great question is three!”. Then, the expert mathemagician takes the spotlight to answer the question of one plus one. “Clearly an expert knows the answer and not some silly politician! After great calculations, the answer, is four!”. The crowd thinks, clearly the answer must be either three or four, maybe the uncertain could compromise to three and a half. If only there was some way to reliably come to a true conclusion.

To me personally, truth is the most internally consistent configuration of information that I have, cleaned up using cognitive dissonance as my guide!

Why what? I wont answer unless you ask properly!

I think that style is the counter for kids asking “why?” just to piss you off or push boundaries. It’ll take too much effort to spam and will force real questions.

@ChatGPT@lemmings.world Tell us the story about Kratoz the lemming that knew too much and got whacked.