The app has always been trash. Idk how people can take using it for long periods of time. When I went back for a bit (during r/place), the deterioration of content was obvious. Don’t take my word for it - even redditors know it’s getting worse. All they have now is the amount of users.

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Honestly, great writeup. I missed this user/community, but I feel I’m up-to-date with this post. Man, that guy was using mental gymnastics like no other lol.

With a squeaky voice (I just know it)

LMAOOOOOO

I think I’m gonna like this community. 10/10. Will come back again 👍 👍 👍

Edit: I wonder what’s the relevance of “860”

Idk if it’s the previous mascot. When I joined it never felt like it was child-like or anything. I do like the new one, though.

I think that guy is just looking for an instance/server that would tolerate or at least ignore the BS he’s trying to push. I never even saw his posts so kudos to you for being on top of it really quickly. And I hope that guy doesn’t find an instance he can spread his ideas in.

Yeah. I have. Echo chambers. Hated them.

But the OP seems to be open-minded based on this post. If he is (or at least tries to be), then I don’t see a reason why we should just criticize his politics without just cause. If he eventually proves to be a troll or breaks rules then maybe the admins can ban him.

It’s hard to generalize. There are assholes from all political spectrums, even though there may be more in others.

Edit: if I’m not mistaken, I think it was Voat I checked out last? I really can’t remember but this isn’t the first time I tried leaving reddit. This is the most successful attempt yet, though. I also inadvertently joined a Q group/channel on Telegram. Lmao.

You’re right. The devs know it can be confusing to new guys and are planning to do something about it. Idk what the progress is, though. They seem to be pretty busy making lemmy stable first.

So anyone who doesn’t subscribe to everything you believe in or agree with are liars, ignorant, and hateful? Discussions and debate can be healthy.

From what I’ve read, the owner went the"free speech" and “I only want discussions” route, removing 2 well-respected (based on comments I’ve read) admins in the process. Also made changes to the TOS such as what you post there is now owned by them. Seemed familiar. 🤔

Unfortunately, it seemed to me most of them are moving to Discuit, not lemmy.

Edit: not - > now. My inability to spell will get me in trouble really soon. I just know it. 🤦‍♂️

Ubuntu. Pretty sure you already have an idea why. Lol.

OpenSUSE. I’ve always had issues trying to use it, from zypper to updates to bootloops. It’s also sluggish compared to other distros (yes, same DEs usually) on my laptop. I’ve tried at least 3x trying to get why a lot of people love it. It’s just not for me.

I’ve never tried Manjaro yet, but coming from Arch and EOS I don’t think I ever will.

You nailed it. I use FF for personal stuff, but I need a chromium browser for work (internal sites are wonky on FF).

But I work 8hrs a day for 5 days. I don’t even have 8 hours of total free time on saturday and sunday combined, much less use my pc for that long for personal things.

That’s true and I can definitely see the appeal. Sometines it’s just nice to chill with like-minded people and get away from the toxicity of the internet.

It’s a double-edged sword in my experience, though. My local subreddit has been an echo chamber for years now. Politics and complaints. You’ll seldom see a thread where both of those aren’t present. Dissent is also discouraged by the majority through actions (downvotes) and replies. It got so bad i stopped going there for more than a year before the reddit API shitshow. I don’t want to see every single post containing a comment about how our country is a shithole with no hope and it’s better to move to literally any other country. Imagine you’re stuck in a community filled with the “other side”. It’s that bad (at least when I was there).

If Beehaw can maintain a good and positive community then there may not be an issue. Unfortunately, we’re on lemmy and it’s quite easy for bad actors to infiltrate a community unless everyone is vigilant. I hate bigots and discrimination probably as much as you, but I have to admit an echo chamber of the other (extreme) side of the spectrum doesn’t really appeal to me, either. Extremes really aren’t for me. A middle ground, like you said, sounds nice.

Hopefully Beehaw can maintain its standard and stay in the middle. I think that would be my biggest concern if I were a beehaw user. Or even a lemmy user.

Idk. It’s not the size. It’s how you use it.

Yup. I was just commenting on the other poster. I was using his statement since, like I’ve said, I never had a Beehaw account. IDK what goes on in here except for what I see on my ALL feed.

Hey. Thank you for responding. I tried deleting my comment since I reread your post and you were pretty clear why you were considering it. It looks like the delete request didn’t push through on your end (it’s happened before to me lol). My bad - I sometimes get ahead of myself. 😅

And yes, I definitely understand (and agree) why this is concerning to you. Bigotry really is a big problem, imho. I do hope it doesn’t become a big problem on kbin.

Again, thanks for responding. Have a great day! :)

I have noticed that beehaw tends to shout down people that disagree which is not beneficial. The more you shout down/ignore a group the louder they become.

I don’t have (and never had) a Beehaw account, primarily because I’d rather stay in small servers, so I’m going to have to take your word for this.

If this is true, then another danger is it (community, server, platform, etc) becomes an echo chamber. A place where dissenting views are suppressed and the majority encourages like-minded points of view. Imho, that’s unhealthy.

May I ask why you posted this? Was there a post/community/behavior that you saw that was questionable?

I ask because I don’t think I’ve seen (yet) any offending posts from kbin so I was quite surprised to read your post. But then again I’m on smaller instances so maybe I don’t see everything you guys see. :)

Oh definitely. There are many things that lemmy needs to work on. It’s nowhere near as stable as reddit as it stands.

But the author was pointing out how reddit is better since it sorts topics by subreddits, implying that lemmy doesn’t do that (which is absolutely false).

As far as discovery and amount of content, I fully agree. Reddit just has much more users than lemmy. There’s no argument. Discoverability is also another aspect I’d love to be improved on in lemmy. If you’re in a small/new instance, you probably won’t see a ton of communities compared to a bigger one.

I’m pretty optimistic, though. I think we’re just getting started.

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While I do agree lemmy adds a layer or two of complexity compared to the simple “plug-and-play” reddit model, the article comes across as blaming all of the author’s lemmy-related issues on the software rather than admitting he just doesn’t understand how to use it.

Unlike Reddit’s approach of categorization using subreddits, Lemmy instances are mostly entire servers that act as catch-all versions of subreddits.

This is one example. Subreddits =/= instances. A more apt comparison would be communities, and then he can point out how communities are hosted by different instances. I mean, how did he miss that?

Another one is when he said there was no visual representation of “All” and “Local”. Just one look at an instance’s page shows you those options quite clearly.

Try as I might, I missed the curation and consolidation of Reddit, where content is batched up into similar topics.

Wait… What? That’s kind of exactly what’s happening in lemmy communities.

I may be biased, but despite lemmy’s many shortcomings/growing pains I feel the author should have acquired at least a basic understanding of how all this works before writing an article that points out “problems” when there is none.

Edit: I’m on mobile so it’s hard to quote every single line. But there were more than a few mistakes there.

It’s easier to park backwards compared to forward, specially if the space is narrow.