I want to learn how you would go from your current system, wherever you are in the world, to one without landlords. I’ll cut the bullshit and just openly say that I don’t think you’ve thought it through.
There are about a million pieces in the middle that are missing, and I promise you that none of them are pretty.
If there was a step by step plan with 100% certainty people would just do that obviously, but that’s a ridiculous standard to have.
There are many approaches to try and soften things: from political agitation for heavy taxes on multiple properties and inheritance taxes to rent caps and so on. Ultimately though, as is currently the case, the landed class will use violence the moment they feel sufficiently threatened and any movement that wants to succeed will need to be prepared to meet that.
Like you can and will be killed or gaoled forever if you resist being homeless sufficiently hard because a piece of paper says that someone has exclusive rights to land they’re not personally using. All the rights we currently enjoy were won through sacrifice. Unionists were killed for sick leave and holidays, people were killed for voting rights, people were killed to be openly gay etc. Dismantling these tools of oppression and violence will involve violence, it is naive to think otherwise but we don’t need to go there before offering peaceful redistribution.
I understand and absolutely agree with everything you’ve said, but I’m not asking for 100% certainty. I’m asking for A plan, no matter how absurd it is.
Every successful revolution in the history of the world has had an endgame. I’m not sure I see yours.
Eh, the SocDems would probably point to Vienna’s social housing as something that’s going well and try to do something similar. But you’d need socialists in government to build a duck ton of housing, and fund repairs adequately. Some places that’s not too ridiculous of an idea, others would be nearly impossible.
That… Isn’t exactly a “plan”. Can you elaborate on how we will get there?
Right click the society, select open directory, locate the society.config file, right click and edit it. Set the variable there.
Do I have to spell everything out?
Very funny.
I guess I misunderstood. I thought you wanted to change things, instead of just bitching and making memes on the internet. That’s on me.
Maybe you should read a few books instead of antagonistically demanding to be educated in the comment section of a joke?
We’ve gotten very far from the topic on hand, but sure, can you recommend me a few books I haven’t read?
what do you want to learn? How revolutions work and their stumbling blocks? How different societies have or might manage land? how we got here?
I want to learn how you would go from your current system, wherever you are in the world, to one without landlords. I’ll cut the bullshit and just openly say that I don’t think you’ve thought it through.
There are about a million pieces in the middle that are missing, and I promise you that none of them are pretty.
If there was a step by step plan with 100% certainty people would just do that obviously, but that’s a ridiculous standard to have.
There are many approaches to try and soften things: from political agitation for heavy taxes on multiple properties and inheritance taxes to rent caps and so on. Ultimately though, as is currently the case, the landed class will use violence the moment they feel sufficiently threatened and any movement that wants to succeed will need to be prepared to meet that.
Like you can and will be killed or gaoled forever if you resist being homeless sufficiently hard because a piece of paper says that someone has exclusive rights to land they’re not personally using. All the rights we currently enjoy were won through sacrifice. Unionists were killed for sick leave and holidays, people were killed for voting rights, people were killed to be openly gay etc. Dismantling these tools of oppression and violence will involve violence, it is naive to think otherwise but we don’t need to go there before offering peaceful redistribution.
I understand and absolutely agree with everything you’ve said, but I’m not asking for 100% certainty. I’m asking for A plan, no matter how absurd it is.
Every successful revolution in the history of the world has had an endgame. I’m not sure I see yours.
Eh, the SocDems would probably point to Vienna’s social housing as something that’s going well and try to do something similar. But you’d need socialists in government to build a duck ton of housing, and fund repairs adequately. Some places that’s not too ridiculous of an idea, others would be nearly impossible.
Economies are pretty big, complicated things. It’s easy to state an ethical standard you have, but it’s very hard to find a good way to do it.