• Hiko0@feddit.de
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    8 months ago

    It‘s a duopoly and I doubt the US will tackle this problem. At least the EU has started doing something about it.

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      8 months ago

      Some nuance to that. The software platform is a duopoly, the hardware is not.

      Not that it matters too much, because anticompetitive practices don’t need a 100% or even a 50% market share.

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        8 months ago

        and even then, Android is mostly open source.
        I’ve personally updated the kernel to my Amazon Fire tablet (and believe me, the 3.18 branch doesn’t contain as many security backports as they’d have you believe)

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        8 months ago

        Correct. But hardware is not the problem here, I‘d say.

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          8 months ago

          I guess it depends. If Apple made iOS available on other hardware this conversation would be different, I bet. The problem with Apple’s practices is the “ecosystem” approach. You get one of their devices and you HAVE to use their OS, you HAVE to use their core app bundle, you HAVE to use their store. And in a number of things where you don’t have to, you’re heavily incentivized or the competition is made less competitive. And now you’re on a software platform that only works with Apple hardware, so now you have an incentive to migrate your other computing devices (laptops, desktops, smart TVs) to be from Apple, too, because that’s where your compatible software lives.

          It’s the sort of practice antitrust laws exist to prevent.

          Google is no saint and will do as much of this as they’re allowed, but at least the nature of their OS and the diversity of manufacturers and OS customizations means they don’t control the ecosystem end to end. The biggest manufacturer is Samsung, and they will ship with their browser, an alternate store, a different mail client and a bunch of OS modifications Google doesn’t control, so Samsung and Google give each other some plausible deniability within the Android ecosystem oligopoly.

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      8 months ago

      US won’t tackle it because it’s a hegemon and in mercantilist terms benefits from it.

      The EU and everybody else are, in fact, interested in changing this.

      But - if nobody remembers, there was a certain TRON Project in Japan. Read up how it ended. Now, US threatening Japan with trade sanctions to preserve some oligopoly and US threatening EU with trade sanctions with the same goal are two different things, the latter is harder.

      EDIT: And I don’t want this to rub someone in a wrong way, but this is a rare case where something possibly called “states’ rights” could have made sense. If the federal government was stripped of ability to do such things.

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        8 months ago

        You‘re right. That‘s why we need a strong EU and multilateral partnerships to counter US and Chinese ambitions.