Awful. Being autistic she may well have meant it at face value without it being an insult, and not understood what she did wrong as she just stated a fact. Then being dragged out while she had an autistic meltdown :(
Even if she did mean it as an insult and wasn’t autistic, there’d be still no need to drag her out and arrest her. She’s a kid. Educate her, sure, but there was no need to escalate it.
The bottom line is, the victim having autism and being young is irrelevant in the sense that no-one should be treated like that for such a trivial insult.
It’s obviously still relevant, the victim is particularly vulnerable, making the abuse so much more obviously callous and disgusting. But I say if this happened to Joe Citizen, it would also be horrific.
The article mentions drink was involved - I don’t know if its the neurodivergence or just me, but I could definitley find myself saying that if met someone who looked like my gay Nan while having a pissed up panic attack
Yeah fr i was thinking ‘yeah that’s EXACTLY what an autistic person needs after getting manhandled and detained- a SCOLDING LECTURE over WORD CHOICE! Woohoo!’
Respectfully to the commenter, we get enough of that shit from regular people already. For some, on a daily basis. Sometimes it’s just bc they feel like guilting someone. So at least for me, that kind of ‘lesson’ wouldn’t go down without some bile (which I’d prob force back up into someone’s face in that situation). The cop looked exactly like her gran and she was right to say it.
Yeah I absolutely agree with you. I didn’t mean to suggest that lecturing the neurodiverse person would have solved the situation in this case.
I meant that even if the girl was neurotypical and/or intended it as a homophobic insult… it doesn’t really matter - if the cop had to do anything, then just talking to the girl would have been a more proportionate response than what happened.
I meant that if the girl was neurotypical and meant to insult the cop, then the cop talking to her would still be a more proportionate response than assault and arrest.
If this girl is so far gone she can’t stop herself from accidently being homophobic, why were the parents letting her out to drink on the street at midnight?
If she was over 18, then I’d agree, she should be allowed to do whatever other adults are allowed too. However she was 16 years old, two years too young to legally drink and doing it in the street not in a pub.
The mother still has a duty of care here due to her age, so if the mother thinks that she is unable to take criminal responsibility due to her age and condition, why is she letting her out to go drinking on the street?
“If the mother thinks she is unable to handle being abused by the only people in the country allowed to employ violence due to her being a minor and autistic, why is she letting her go outside and socialize with her friends?”
You clearly read the article to know she was intoxicated, so you must have also seen the kids words quoted as "you look like my Nana, she’s a lesbian.
That’s oversharing, people do that on a normal day, let alone that she was an intoxicated neurodiverse child having a panic attack. Without context it’s not an insult, with context its a child being manhandled while in distress.
It seems like you have a problem with her as a person for either being a drunk teenager, neurodivergent or possibly something else? Kids fuck about, the consequences in this instance should be a hangover and a stern talking to, not assault and arrest.
Honestly, I don’t think it is.
From an outside perspective, someone might genuinely have that opinion. It might be up for debate (and ratio), however.
From another, you could understand how someone was willing to take the risk to experience a more normal life.
If she was 18 and drinking in a pub, I have no issue whatsoever. However she was 16 and drinking on the street at midnight. Her mother can’t allow her out to do that, but at the same time argue that she’s such a special delicate flower that she shouldn’t have to take criminal responsibility for hate speech. Pick a lane.
Awful. Being autistic she may well have meant it at face value without it being an insult, and not understood what she did wrong as she just stated a fact. Then being dragged out while she had an autistic meltdown :(
Even if she did mean it as an insult and wasn’t autistic, there’d be still no need to drag her out and arrest her. She’s a kid. Educate her, sure, but there was no need to escalate it.
“now honey, what you said was deeply offensive to your grandmother. she doesn’t look like a
!”
The bottom line is, the victim having autism and being young is irrelevant in the sense that no-one should be treated like that for such a trivial insult.
It’s obviously still relevant, the victim is particularly vulnerable, making the abuse so much more obviously callous and disgusting. But I say if this happened to Joe Citizen, it would also be horrific.
That is a pretty sick brurn though. Good on ya, autistic lady whether you meant it as an insult or not. Sorry about the pigs throwing a temper tantrum
You shouldn’t call cops “pigs.” Pigs are intelligent and loving creatures
Fair, my apologies to the swine. You don’t deserve to be associated with cops
“Better a pig than a Fascist” - Porco Rosso
FTFY
Cops might be tasty too. You don’t know until you try.
I’ve tried and I didn’t like it. Very sour.
All that proves is that that one in particular was bad. Maybe it was out of date.
It was ripe.
Fixed that for you.
I’m an autist, and I very well might have meant it as a burn.
The article mentions drink was involved - I don’t know if its the neurodivergence or just me, but I could definitley find myself saying that if met someone who looked like my gay Nan while having a pissed up panic attack
Lol fuck off allistic
Yeah fr i was thinking ‘yeah that’s EXACTLY what an autistic person needs after getting manhandled and detained- a SCOLDING LECTURE over WORD CHOICE! Woohoo!’
Respectfully to the commenter, we get enough of that shit from regular people already. For some, on a daily basis. Sometimes it’s just bc they feel like guilting someone. So at least for me, that kind of ‘lesson’ wouldn’t go down without some bile (which I’d prob force back up into someone’s face in that situation). The cop looked exactly like her gran and she was right to say it.
Yeah I absolutely agree with you. I didn’t mean to suggest that lecturing the neurodiverse person would have solved the situation in this case.
I meant that even if the girl was neurotypical and/or intended it as a homophobic insult… it doesn’t really matter - if the cop had to do anything, then just talking to the girl would have been a more proportionate response than what happened.
I meant that if the girl was neurotypical and meant to insult the cop, then the cop talking to her would still be a more proportionate response than assault and arrest.
If this girl is so far gone she can’t stop herself from accidently being homophobic, why were the parents letting her out to drink on the street at midnight?
You think people with a limited verbal filter who speak their mind shouldn’t be allowed to go out at night or drink alcohol?
I think ableists shouldn’t be allowed on the internet.
If she was over 18, then I’d agree, she should be allowed to do whatever other adults are allowed too. However she was 16 years old, two years too young to legally drink and doing it in the street not in a pub.
The mother still has a duty of care here due to her age, so if the mother thinks that she is unable to take criminal responsibility due to her age and condition, why is she letting her out to go drinking on the street?
Nice victim blaming you got there buddy
If anything I’m blaming the mother for being irresponsible.
“If the mother thinks she is unable to handle being abused by the only people in the country allowed to employ violence due to her being a minor and autistic, why is she letting her go outside and socialize with her friends?”
Yea this autistic girls guardians seem to be abusive or at very least neglectful, and so? Was your point that the mom sounds like she sucks?
What about “you look like my gay grandma” is homophobic?!
I’m sorry what?
You clearly read the article to know she was intoxicated, so you must have also seen the kids words quoted as "you look like my Nana, she’s a lesbian.
That’s oversharing, people do that on a normal day, let alone that she was an intoxicated neurodiverse child having a panic attack. Without context it’s not an insult, with context its a child being manhandled while in distress.
It seems like you have a problem with her as a person for either being a drunk teenager, neurodivergent or possibly something else? Kids fuck about, the consequences in this instance should be a hangover and a stern talking to, not assault and arrest.
Saying someone looks like someone else who happens to be gay is not homophobic… You’re homophobic for thinking it is.
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Honestly, I don’t think it is.
From an outside perspective, someone might genuinely have that opinion. It might be up for debate (and ratio), however.
From another, you could understand how someone was willing to take the risk to experience a more normal life.
If she was 18 and drinking in a pub, I have no issue whatsoever. However she was 16 and drinking on the street at midnight. Her mother can’t allow her out to do that, but at the same time argue that she’s such a special delicate flower that she shouldn’t have to take criminal responsibility for hate speech. Pick a lane.
Also, if a 16-year-old in the UK wants to go out and get pissed, stopping them is no easy feat.