• CableMonster@lemmy.ml
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    7 months ago

    Free trade is not the same as the US literally giving ukraine tens or hundreds of billions in military aid…

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      7 months ago

      Cuba was completely supported by the Soviet Union with billions in economic aid and hundreds of millions in military aid every year.

      “From 1976 to 1980, the Soviets invested US$1.7 billion on the construction and remodeling of Cuban factories and industry. Between 1981 and 1984 Cuba also received approximately US$750 million a year in Soviet military assistance.”

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuba–Soviet_Union_relations#:~:text=From 1976 to 1980%2C the,year in Soviet military assistance.

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          The US freaked out after the USSR gave Cuba money AND installed missiles there. It sure must be the money that freaked the US out, it can’t possibly be the missiles pointed directly at he US, that wouldn’t make any sense.

          /s just in case.

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            Yeah, because back then the US gave long range missiles to Italy and Turkey. The Cuban Missiles were a response to the US’s aggression.

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                7 months ago

                So when Russia put missles on our doorstep it was okay to risk nuclear war, but when the US and NATO do the same thing, its totally cool becuase its us doing it?

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                  The Soviets were installing long range nuclear missiles. The US won’t even give long range conventional weapons.

                  Given that Russia violated the Budapest Memorandum, Ukraine is free to acquire/develop nuclear weapons.

                  But all that is besides the point that you claimed the US would freak out if Soviets gave Cuba money. But Soviets continued giving money until the Soviet Union dissolved. Even under Reagan, there was no freak out.

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                  7 months ago

                  About the Cuban missile crisis: I don’t beleive the US had the right to respond the way they did considering the nukes in Turkey.

                  We were however talking about aid to Ukraine.

                  I thought that you believed the response from the US was caused by the economic aid the Soviet Union send to Cuba. I was mocking that idea.

                  Let’s stick to the topic.

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                    7 months ago

                    The reason I bring it up is that the Soviet Union was fooling around with our neighbor and it made us uneasy at best, and we have been fooling around with all kinds of countries in their neighborhood and it feels threatening to them too. The war is happened because the US (and NATO) keep doing things that Russia finds threatening. And we just last week instigate war even more by saying Ukraine will join nato. If anyone says Biden is a good president we can point to that and how he is pushing us into WW3.

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          7 months ago

          You said the US would freak out if the Soviets gave money to Cuba. But the Soviets did give money.

          The long range missiles in the 1960’s are a separate issue from military aid. The aid I linked was from the 70’s to 80’s.

          Even now the US still won’t give Ukraine long range missiles.