Bloat taking up disk space doesn’t really matter. Bloat taking up RAM/CPU can affect performance on the other hand.
Wasted performance large scale means wasted resources large scale, like CO2 emissions, energy costs, and hardware that would not be needed without
Somebody please do the math which shows the global delta of CO2 related arch vs Ubuntu bloat. I need to know exactly how many dozens of minutes of vespa usage this is equivalent to per year when taken globally.
Better yet, I need to know how much the global CO2/Water use delta is between the most bloated Linux (mint?) and your average Windows 11 install. Windows 11 phones home for so much bullshit all the time, it’d be good for a laugh.
And here I am, shuddering in disgust at the thought of a Windows 11 phone.
I’m concerned with the CO2 usage on the constant churn of rebuilding packages, transferring and installing them on all the computers running Arch. I want to know the climate impact of rolling distros!
It should be noted that if the bloat is having to load from said disks frequently, it can lead to premature failure of SSDs, and also if it’s hitting them while you’re trying to load other files, it does also affect performance that way.
But yeah, I’m more concerned with the other resources.
I believe SSD’s don’t actually experience wear when reading data, only when writing. Loading more data from SSD’s shouldn’t cause any premature failure. Overwriting more data each update could cause the drive to fail slightly earlier, but if that’s really that big of a concern, you’d be best of moving to Debian stable (no updates means no SSD writes).
If SSD wear prevention is really that big of a concern, you might be interested in profile-sync-daemon (https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Profile-sync-daemon). It reduces writes to hard drives by keeping your browser profile in RAM, and only periodically syncing it to disk.
Though I must add that SSD’s wearing out really isn’t that much of an issue with modern drives. With normal usage, a drive will become obsolete long before it actually wears out.
If all the bloat means that both the Wifi AND the external screen AND the touchpad work out of the box SIMULTANEOUSLY, go for it.
Most of that is in the kernel anyways.
Bloat is one of the last thing I worry about in a distro honestly, Maybe just because I’m a newer user and compared to Windows 10 out of the box even the most bloated distros seem pretty slim.
Because these people are trying to get an OS running on 15 year old dumpster dived laptops. It’s kind of a Linux thing to get it running usably on the biggest old piece of shit you can find. I’ve done similar myself with a Pentium II machine from the late 90s in 2015.
People with modern multiple cores and dozens of GB of RAM are not usually worried about these things.
Honestly fedora with i3 runs well enough on my pentium 4 laptop. It just overheats in summer sometimes. I am thinking about trying LFS on my desktop one day though. That would probably be the least bloat possible for a setup that I’m happy with and I could make fun of arch users.
laughs nervously in NixOS
Minification is a curse. Now hear me out… I’ve wasted so much engineering time trying to figure out why various build scripts fail in docker only to find there’s a
tool = $(which tool) 2>/dev/nullin there eating the real error. Which is missing because someone wanted to save a 100k by not installing it the docker image base image.Let me pull another docker container image, install a flatpak and update my snaps.
What’s the original clip from?
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Great video, but could’ve been uploaded to peertube 😛
P.S ubuntu is no more bloated than windows or mac. Probably less so
Would it maybe be easier to put that license in your “about” section instead of at the end of your comments? Or does it not work like that
It’s for AI training. They scape entire comments. Putting it outside of the comments will thus not make it show up in the training data. If they add license stripping to training data, it makes things more difficult but probably more questionable on their end, maybe even possibly illegal. It will come down to detection and enforcement.
Finally, years after they’ve mostly gone away, a good use for those signature blocks forums would offer!
