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  • mommykink@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    “Valid” in what sense? Of course you’re allowed to shame people who perpetuate terrible actions/thoughts against women. But when that group was literally created by and has grown through pre-existing, socially reinforced thoughts of shame and inadequacy, I’m going to hold you slightly responsible for that problem continuing.

    • nac82@lemm.ee
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      8 months ago

      I’m going to hold you responsible for defending them from criticism they need to face. You are creating a safe space for abusive ideologies to fester.

      • Isoprenoid@programming.dev
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        8 months ago

        I’m going to hold you responsible for defending them from criticism they need to face.

        These men already face the criticism, that is the driver pushing them further to become abusive and self-abusive.

        What you are suggesting is cornering an animal, and then saying “Hey, we should corner it more because it’s acting aggressively.” and then acting surprised when it attacks you.

        We need to offer these men a healthy way out which is culturally appropriate.