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    8 months ago

    Farmers and the amount of food they grow isn’t the issue. It’s corporate greed.

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        8 months ago

        At times for some things. But tell me, is there a shortage right now of any major staple food/ingredient?

        The farmers are not the ones getting rich. It’s Nestle, Kraft, PepsiCo, General Mills, Kellogg’s and so on. As long as they remain the big market for what the farmer’s are selling, food prices won’t change. But the farmers could go under if their prices crash due to oversupply.

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          Sorry why can’t you cosplay farmer simps keep your story straight? Half of you are arguing that farmers produce too much so the government is needed to make them produce less and the other half are arguing that farmers don’t produce enough and they need the government to make them produce more. Which is it?

          Just a fyi you can hold two ideas at once. There are asshole food distribution companies and there are asshole cosplay farmers getting subsidies to not grow. I know, my hometown was basically this. People pretending to be independent successful farmers when all they could grow was dirt and could only produce meth.

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            I don’t know what the hell a cosplay farmer is, but I am assuredly not one. I do my even have a god damn garden on my 0.10 acre city lot.

            Learn some history. Farmers have tried to overgrow to make more money, and it has led to collapse as the market forms a glut.

            The government does do something different with corn subsidies, causing over abundance of corn, but that has just lead to the overuse of corn syrup sugar, which is a major contributor to obesity.

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              8 months ago

              I see. So we are not going to mention the dust bowl and starvation argument anymore. Love how this arguments just keep wandering.

              Do you know what a moral ought from an is is?

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                8 months ago

                On the subject of wandering arguments: you never answered my initial question: what staple food are we experiencing a major shortage of?

                We had shortages during the pandemic. They have largely resolved. But food companies have learned people still will buy food, so they kept prices high. What has truly hurt is consolidation. With so much food controlled by so few, competition isn’t working.

                Growing food isn’t without a massive carbon and environmental footprint. Trying to force a glut which will just result is spoiled food and bankrupt farmers is not the answer.

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                  what staple food are we experiencing a major shortage of?

                  Me personally? Nothing. Parts of the world are pretty messed up now.

                  We had shortages during the pandemic. They have largely resolved.

                  Yes black swan events tend to create black swan effects. Not relevant when we are talking about 90 year old programs.

                  But food companies have learned people still will buy food, so they kept prices high

                  Already addressed this. Free money to people who want to cosplay as farmers is not me saying food distribution companies are morally perfect. I don’t have anything against cosplay but I don’t think you would like me to get your tax dollars to do it.

                  With so much food controlled by so few, competition isn’t working.

                  Wandering argument. Go demand an anti-trust suit.

                  Growing food isn’t without a massive carbon and environmental footprint.

                  Just throwing everything you can at this now?

                  Trying to force a glut which will just result is spoiled food and bankrupt farmers is not the answer.

                  Supply goes up, price goes down. And cosplay farmers should go bankrupt. Free them to do something useful with their life. I would be lying if I can list off a single one I grew up with who wasn’t a total failure at what they did. Go do something else! Be a welder, be an electrician, be an accountant do productive things and stop pretending you are good at what you aren’t.

                  It makes as much sense to give fail farmers money as it does to pay my fat ass to play basketball