Nah, I take solace in knowing that if we destroy ourselves or collapse all civilization with our own self-destructive nature, life will go on and Earth will renew. We’re fuck ups to be sure, but even we can’t fuck up enough to completely sterilize the planet.
Maybe everything in all existence isn’t about us. Honestly I hope not.
Normally I’d totally agree with you but the more I see how badly we’ve fucked everything (google AMOC and water temps) the more I worry about runaway effects that continue far after we’ve been deleted entirely from the ecosystem (and most of the ecosystem to boot) - there’s only so much CO2 you can pump into a system before warming becomes rapidly self sustaining - see Venus.
As far as we know, the problem with Venus is that it never developed a cycle of aerobic and anaerobic life forms. Even if we pump the atmosphere full of CO2, some photosyntethising life forms will still remain.
I don’t think it’s “prioritise humans over the planet” but more “we should be able to look after one another as a base level of being human. If we can’t figure that out how the hell can we focus on bigger things like the planet”. Not saying what we should and shouldn’t do but just throwing shade at our ability.
For example, we’re quickly making the planet too hot for some people to live where their homes are. We should find ways to stop heating up the planet to help them!
Honestly at this point I’d accept eco fascism. Arguing about “taking care of each other” while life support is failing and we enter triage levels of failure is inane
the problem there is it requires a power base to enforce - and all the power bases seemed determined to drive off the cliff (some are tapping the brakes but the rest are full throttle and rolling coal for lulz) at one speed or another - and a military industrial complex large enough to be strategically effective would be (like the US army) one of the largest polluters in the world.
I want something to change, I just don’t see ecofascism ( a really bad term btw ) as a possible avenue.
Victor Von Doom levels of resources/soverign agency might be able to. I think us humans are going to be a sad end note in some other species’ extraterrestrial archeology, after so many of them run into our radio and other emissions.
Yeah. I mean good luck taking care of anyone including yourself in the dystopian hellscape wrought be late stage capitalism. It’s funny to be sure, but it’s part of an act. Taking care of each other requires an environment that isn’t toxic and bereft of food.
Since “general learning disability” and “Intellectual disability” is no longer called “retardation” does it matter?
I doubt anyone that says “retard” (or any variation) are actually referring in any way to ID and more to its original meaning of slow or stupid. I personally see no problem with calling people stupid (if warranted obviously).
You obviously shouldn’t call people with ID “retards” though. But imo that’s something entirely different.
The vast majority of people pushing for this word not to be used are people without intellectual disability. I think an argument could be made that these people are being ableist by deciding what is offensive to people with ID for them.
I have never heard the word used to refer to someone with ID in my life, and I would imagine if someone ever did, they would be immediately rebuked or scolded by others around them.
Retard and retarded also have a legitimate definition and use in math, that has nothing to do with intellectual disabilities.
I’m hoping Cretin makes a comeback, it’s got a certain feel I just think should be applied more often.
FAS baby could be used for offensive reasons but I also think it’s a pretty accurate description of tons of folks in the public sphere who very much aren’t helping our society writ large.
I’m probably going to hell for this post. I’m not a good person.
dude, right? we got lucky there; I was amazed to learn that he was a lifelong christian and preacher, and never let that cloud his message of kindness and humility he presented publicly. very christ-like, unlike so many christians.
While funny. This has always been a rather retarded take. Semantics. I for one value a biosphere capable of supporting humans > “the people”
Nah, I take solace in knowing that if we destroy ourselves or collapse all civilization with our own self-destructive nature, life will go on and Earth will renew. We’re fuck ups to be sure, but even we can’t fuck up enough to completely sterilize the planet.
Maybe everything in all existence isn’t about us. Honestly I hope not.
Normally I’d totally agree with you but the more I see how badly we’ve fucked everything (google AMOC and water temps) the more I worry about runaway effects that continue far after we’ve been deleted entirely from the ecosystem (and most of the ecosystem to boot) - there’s only so much CO2 you can pump into a system before warming becomes rapidly self sustaining - see Venus.
As far as we know, the problem with Venus is that it never developed a cycle of aerobic and anaerobic life forms. Even if we pump the atmosphere full of CO2, some photosyntethising life forms will still remain.
I don’t think it’s “prioritise humans over the planet” but more “we should be able to look after one another as a base level of being human. If we can’t figure that out how the hell can we focus on bigger things like the planet”. Not saying what we should and shouldn’t do but just throwing shade at our ability.
For example, we’re quickly making the planet too hot for some people to live where their homes are. We should find ways to stop heating up the planet to help them!
Honestly at this point I’d accept eco fascism. Arguing about “taking care of each other” while life support is failing and we enter triage levels of failure is inane
the problem there is it requires a power base to enforce - and all the power bases seemed determined to drive off the cliff (some are tapping the brakes but the rest are full throttle and rolling coal for lulz) at one speed or another - and a military industrial complex large enough to be strategically effective would be (like the US army) one of the largest polluters in the world.
I want something to change, I just don’t see ecofascism ( a really bad term btw ) as a possible avenue.
Victor Von Doom levels of resources/soverign agency might be able to. I think us humans are going to be a sad end note in some other species’ extraterrestrial archeology, after so many of them run into our radio and other emissions.
Hopefully nature finds balance post humanity.
yeah I hope we don’t fuck it so thoroughly that something else can’t evolve up. squid or octopus would be awesome.
Unless they live sustainably and in tune with nature, it would again, be an unbalance.
Exactly what he was implying, I agree.
Carlin’s gist was that the planet will be fine, it’s everything else - so we better get our shit together soon.
IIRC this was in the 90s. Not a literal take.
Yeah. I mean good luck taking care of anyone including yourself in the dystopian hellscape wrought be late stage capitalism. It’s funny to be sure, but it’s part of an act. Taking care of each other requires an environment that isn’t toxic and bereft of food.
Stop encouraging ableist insults.
Since “general learning disability” and “Intellectual disability” is no longer called “retardation” does it matter?
I doubt anyone that says “retard” (or any variation) are actually referring in any way to ID and more to its original meaning of slow or stupid. I personally see no problem with calling people stupid (if warranted obviously).
You obviously shouldn’t call people with ID “retards” though. But imo that’s something entirely different.
The vast majority of people pushing for this word not to be used are people without intellectual disability. I think an argument could be made that these people are being ableist by deciding what is offensive to people with ID for them.
I have never heard the word used to refer to someone with ID in my life, and I would imagine if someone ever did, they would be immediately rebuked or scolded by others around them.
Retard and retarded also have a legitimate definition and use in math, that has nothing to do with intellectual disabilities.
Fun fact: At least some airbus planes audibly tell pilots to retard when landing. It’s saying that the pilots should retard or pullback the throttle.
What it sounds like: https://youtu.be/vmbzKsqKQoI?t=26s
An explanation why: https://youtu.be/C2YjX-_g9k8
I wonder if they get as offended when people use other outdated medical terms like idiot and imbecile.
I’m hoping Cretin makes a comeback, it’s got a certain feel I just think should be applied more often.
FAS baby could be used for offensive reasons but I also think it’s a pretty accurate description of tons of folks in the public sphere who very much aren’t helping our society writ large.
I’m probably going to hell for this post. I’m not a good person.
Yeah that’s dark lol. Don’t worry about it, I’d say you could count on one hand the number of truly good people who’ve ever existed.
TY, that stat seems depressingly accurate.
At least we’ll always have Fred Rogers.
dude, right? we got lucky there; I was amazed to learn that he was a lifelong christian and preacher, and never let that cloud his message of kindness and humility he presented publicly. very christ-like, unlike so many christians.