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A newly-proposed class action lawsuit alleges that Apple has “marked up its iCloud prices to the point where the service...

Apple hit with class action lawsuit over iCloud’s 5GB limit::A newly-proposed class action lawsuit alleges that Apple has “marked up its iCloud prices to the point where the service…

  • macattack@lemmy.worldEnglish
    7930·
    10 months ago

    Sometimes it’s hard to feel sorry for Apple users given the amount of repeated nickeling and diming they go through,yet make excuses for (as seen in the comments). Definitely shades of battered woman syndrome

      • andrew@lemmy.stuart.funEnglish
        415·
        10 months ago

        This sounds like something that hasn’t been true for 5-10 years tbh. At least not within the Pixel family. I upgrade phones without a single hiccup. My older phones are still around and used daily by my kids with no problema. I’ve had to wipe a phone and restore from the cloud backup and it was a matter of minutes to be usable, and was effectively like nothing had happened as soon as my apps and their data finished downloading.

        • Sanctus@lemmy.worldEnglish
          211·
          10 months ago

          I setup both for work. On this front there is hardly any difference. For the average user, it now comes down to OS and device preference. I manage my family’s apple and google accounts and neither was much harder than the other. Now, for work, preparing an iPhone is much, much more complicated than an Android device. This, once again, only matters if you don’t have automated enrollment from your business carrier into your MDM.

          • andrew@lemmy.stuart.funEnglish
            131·
            10 months ago

            I don’t deny it might feel foreign to someone using iOS daily for decades. But that’s not the statement. The statement was that iOS does things like upgrades, backup restoration, and value retention better, which just isn’t true anymore.

            I use both, actually, because Android tablets in my experience have been pretty disappointing, so I’m pretty familiar with both ecosystems.

      • Scubus@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        269·
        10 months ago

        On the other hand, the phone just works,

        Same with android

        upgrades between devices are seamless,

        Same with android

        and the phone retains value after 4 years.

        Aight you got me there, except for that apple has been proven in court to slow down their older models of phones

        Plus, the backup restoration is insane. If you stole my phone, I’d be back to where I was within an hour or two

        Same with android

        — all of which is driving to Apple and waiting on a sales clerk to pull an iPhone from the back, then going to a store owned by my cell carrier to register the device on their network.

        I just go to walmart

        No device re-customization at all in the equation.

        Same with android

        There is nothing like it on Android.

        False

        5GB is a lame amount for a base tier of storage in 2024 but it’s hardly abuse.

        I agree, if people are willing to buy into apple they get what apple serves them.

        It’s pretty cool how you can just download any app and install it, also how you can customize the phone to look however you want, run whatever software you want, and all for under $200

        Oh wait

      • deranger@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        179·
        10 months ago

        Apple makes my life as the family sysadmin significantly easier. If I only had to worry about myself I’d do Android with a privacy focused ROM, but I doubt I could handle my entire family doing that. No way am I putting them on stock Android.

        It would be nice if there was some competition but I’m not holding my breath.

        • Enk1@lemmy.worldEnglish
          144·
          10 months ago

          Why would you only use a privacy focused ROM and not stock Android, when you use a stock iPhone? Do you think that Apple doesn’t collect just as much data on you as Android does? It’s literally in the Apple terms of service. They’ve just conned you into believing their marketing BS.

          • deranger@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            115·
            10 months ago

            Did you not read my post? I use Apple because it makes managing my family fleet easier. If I were by myself I would use a privacy focused ROM.

            I’ve got users to manage, and Apple’s locked down approach makes it significantly easier. Everyone gets updates the same day, and phones are supported for years, not months. Backups are stupid easy if someone needs a replacement. iCloud is forgettable, which is ideal for the children and grandparents I manage.

            Apple is collecting data on me, but selling data isn’t their primary business. The same cannot be said for Google, which is one of the reasons I’m not putting my family on stock Google. Apple is the lesser evil.

            • Enk1@lemmy.worldEnglish
              5·
              10 months ago

              Ok, so you were saying you prefer a privacy focused OS but settle for iOS because it’s simpler. Fair point.

              As far as data collection goes, Google isn’t selling it either. Apple and Google are both collecting your data to assign you to certain demographics. They then sell ad space, and the people that purchase those ads can select the demographic they want it to go to. It’s not ideal, but it’s certainly better than them selling your actual personal data to third parties.

      • fidodo@lemmy.worldEnglish
        136·
        10 months ago

        I have had zero issues restoring or moving between android phones. What in the world are you talking about?

        Meanwhile my mom forgot her apple password and their customer support was so unhelpful she had to get a new account after talking to them for months. They refused to let her reset her password.

      • Fisch@lemmy.mlEnglish
        4·
        10 months ago

        Actually, there’s something exactly like that on Android too. Just like on iOS, you also don’t have the choice to back that up to where you want tho. You have to use Google Drive if you’re not using a custom ROM like LineageOS.

        • AA5B@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          10 months ago

          Wait, really? I haven’t checked that in a couple years but my Home Assistant backups are broken because out of Google drive space and it shouldn’t use anywhere near that amount - Damn, now I’m going to have to actually check it out

          Edit: it was full of random crap. Good news it was trivial to clear space but now i have to figure out why some of that was there and whether is have copies

          • Enk1@lemmy.worldEnglish
            215·
            10 months ago

            3x as much is “marginally better.” What world do you Apple zealots live in?

            • NOT_RICK@lemmy.worldEnglish
              1415·
              10 months ago

              15gb ain’t much either, and drive works on iOS to boot. So I guess earth?

              Edit: Google Drive free tier: 15gb Google Drive 100gb: $2/month iCloud free tier: 5gb iCloud 50gb: $1/month

              Wow, what a radical difference in offerings. I am definitely just like a battered woman

              • QuaternionsRock@lemmy.worldEnglish
                8·
                10 months ago

                The problem stated in the lawsuit is that you can’t use alternative backup providers on iOS, while you (presumably?) can on Android. Apple has no real competition in the device backup space, as they prevent third-parties from providing an equivalent service. (Notice the word equivalent - iTunes backups don’t count.) It’s a perfectly reasonable complaint IMO.

                I say this as someone who prefers iCloud for its encryption features.

                • NOT_RICK@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  21·
                  10 months ago

                  That’s reasonable. I think iOS/iPadOS overall are in dire need of being more open. iPad especially since they’re at the point where they could largely replace laptops but are hamstrung by being so locked down. I still think it’s obnoxious to compare people with different opinions to domestic abuse victims

      • Fisch@lemmy.mlEnglish
        3·
        10 months ago

        As far as I know, Android also doesn’t give you the option to back up system and app data to something else than Google Drive. LineageOS gives you that option but they implemented that themselves.

    • willya@lemmyf.ukEnglish
      31·
      10 months ago

      That’s a pretty sick analogy. It’s crazy the levels you guys take these Apple feuds to.