Why are all the #peertube instances defederated from each other?
Has there been drama over there or something?
- https://video.ploud.fr/about/follows is subbed to 220 instances
- https://freediverse.com/about/follows has 63 followers and subbed to 712 instances
- https://bee-tube.fr/about/follows has 92 followers and subbed to 1250 instances
Just keep clicking through those pages and you’ll see they federated. How come none of you bothered to even check out the instances themselves? This is why fake news spreads…
I think it’s just a misunderstanding. With most other Fedi software, servers federate via the users themselves following content from other servers and then the admins have control over whether to sever that connection by defederating. With PeerTube it doesn’t work that way, federation is controlled by the admin of each server in the first place and they tend to keep the list quite short (on a particular theme, or just servers by other admins they trust, or whatever).
I expect the fundamental reasons for that are the expense of hosting video content and also the risk of extremely NSFL material if you throw the doors open by default. It definitely results in a lot of behaviours that seem very strange if you’re used to the usual fedi way of doing things.
You can follow other instances in peertube as user, but it’s not straight forward. You have to copy-paste the link of the user, video, or channel in the search bar, then follow. It’s a bizarre way of doing things and mastodon has something similar too.
Yes you can follow channels from other servers without much of a problem. The issue that this on something like Lemmy or Mastodon, that follow would then bring the followed content into the search results of your server. It doesn’t seem to work that way on PT.
Example: I have two channels on makertube.net. My husband follows them both, from another PT server (I can’t remember which). But just the act of him following doesn’t mean my channel shows up in a search from his server.
That’s unfortunate. However, to say “they don’t federate” is still fake news. They do, just not like Mastodon does.
Is there a feature request for PT to rectify this?
@onlinepersona @thegiddystitcher that’s actually what I am doing. I found I can just follow all these peertube users from Mastodon, so that’s what I do
That’s definitely the way to go for now. PT is pretty ok software from the creator pov but it’s atrocious as someone just looking to view! We’ll see how things develop, maybe that changes at some point.
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Nah it should not. It would hurt decentralization and small instances. We already have a tool for curbing spam, it’s called the Fediseer. You may or may not have heard about it, but most admins have.
My guess/experience.
- several spam attackes in the last few years led to a lot of defederation of poorly moderated instances.
- opt in federation model combined with lazy and/or overworked sysops
- desire to curate the recent videos feed by excluding possibly problematic federation partners.
I feel like it’s because of the risky nature of video content and it appearing to be hosted by the site
I run a small instance that doesn’t have open registrations and is very limited in who it follows to prevent risky videos from accidentally being rehosted (and to host content I helped make)
I feel like there should be a mechanism to block posts but allow comments
I am also wondering this
This is absurd anyway.
There is something working out there which can be implemented by anyone even including entire countries and we keep seeing YouTube links everywhere. Even NASA gave up their streaming service. It once supported any kind of player and they didn’t even need to pay for it. Any streaming host will carry NASA TV, they may even pay extra for the privilege.
This isn’t ignorance, some people are getting paid big time. Also a reminder for countries other than USA: You are using a American company service which is bound to American laws. You are also sending your citizens and their money to a foreign service.
