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    “Most powerful empire the world has ever known”

    Lol Americans

    The Romans conquered the known world with pointy sticks and diplomacy.

    The US hasn’t been on the winning side since ww2 despite having nukes and spyplanes.

    Even the British Empire spanned the globe, and all they had was cannons, rum, and syphilis.

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      Yeah they may not incorporate other countries like previous empires, but their sphere of influence is undeniable unfortunately.

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      Rome wasn’t the most powerful empire, merely the third longest lasting; the Assyrians and Egyptians had a run that puts Rome to shame, and the Khans wielded far more power than any individual emperor.

      The US is just the only world power left in modern time that could deploy anywhere within 24 hrs with more than just a strike force (and they can do so far far harder than any previous “empire”). The US “empire” is based on deployment potential, banking, and diplomacy. Nukes are just the key required to gain entry to the table so you don’t get wiped at deployment.

      Bricks is literally the alliance trying to match US power and still hasn’t. This is mostly a barrier to entry problem rather than personal power, but it does stand that no previous empire could match the modern US in millitary, finance, or diplomacy.

      But hey give it 50 years we are doing our best to shit on two of those.

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        More importantly, did they have the ability to deploy a Taco Bell, McDonald’s, and Wendy’s anywhere in the world, within 72 hours, just so their troops would have variety of food?

        Nope. The Japanese knew they had royally fucked up when they realized that we had ships that were dedicated to ice cream supplies. You have to have everything else needed for war covered, before you start the logistical supply train of ice cream.

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      But if they fought I’d bet against the pointy stick guys and the syphilis guys.

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      You seem to completely misunderstand American diplomacy.

      Just because America doesn’t have the same style of conquest, doesn’t mean they aren’t conquerors.

      America was the first empire to realize that all empires eventually fall whose agenda is toppling nations and replacing their flags with their own.

      The USA invented a unique twist: never replacing the country’s flag.

      Instead, as evidenced by countless examples such as Iran and Panama, the American agenda has always been installing a new national leader whose interests align with American ideals of democracy and “freedom” (predominantly of the white Christian variety). But they keep their “flag”, or in some sense maintain a national identity through the new leader, so it feels a lot less like they were conquered.

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        Exactly. Wilson fucked up with Wilsonian Doctrine, among a ton of other things. Teddy had it right. Speak softly and carry a big stick. Get in, get out, get done.

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        Lol That’s just a bunch of mental gymnastics to justify why the “mighty” US can’t even win a war against an impoverished SE Asian nation with 50 year old Soviet weapons

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        A few trolls can take America by installing a puppet red head president who will then dismantle the country in a few years time.

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            See also

            • Adolf Twitler

            • Benedict Donald

            • Cheeto Benito

            • Cheeto In Chief

            • Cinnamon Hitler

            • Comrade Cheetolino

            • Con-Hair

            • Despot Cheeto

            • Diaper Don

            • Draft Dodger Don’

            • Fanta Menace

            • Hair Furher

            • King Mierdas

            • The Manchildian Candidate

            • Mango Mussolini

            • Orange Julius Caesar

            • President Gold Man Sucks

            • Prima Donald

            • Pumpkin Pinochet

            • Tangerine Toddler

            • Tangerine Tyrant

            • Trumplethinskin

            • Tweeto Toupee’to

            • The White Pride Pipe