“We will continue to actively engage in the hard work of direct diplomacy on the ground until we reach a Final Solution.”

  • go_go_gadget@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    then in 2020… we get Biden.

    Do you think the same people who refused to show up for Hillary in the 2016 general voted for Biden in the 2020 primaries?

    The elephant in the room here is that moderates are the largest voting bloc in the Democrat party. That means they hold the lions share of the responsibility for outcomes. If they steamroll the primaries to vote for a candidate that isn’t popular with wings they need to win general elections they are responsible for that decision.

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      8 months ago

      Do you think the same people who refused to show up for Hillary in the 2016 general voted for Biden in the 2020 primaries?

      Well, no. I’m not sure what point you think I was making.

      My point is that the DNC isn’t going to be pushed left by a loss. The leadership is old, stubborn, and stupid. They’ll tell leftists to shut the fuck up during the primaries because they don’t matter, then blame them after a loss because suddenly they did matter enough to make the difference. When it turns out that most leftists held their noses and voted Blue anyway, they’ll just ignore it. Then, if we get to vote again, they’ll take exactly the wrong lesson, and just push harder to the right.

      The point in bringing up 2016 is because they did push a centrist candidate, she did lose to a fascist clown, and then, four years later, they pushed Joe Biden. Why on Earth would anyone expect them to do anything different if it happens again?