• S_204@lemm.ee
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    Hey man, your reason and logic aren’t going to hold up to the Qatari and Iranian Propaganda. Doesn’t matter that one side rejected the deal offered at the start, doesn’t matter that one side refuses to acknowledge the other sides existence. This is the time when people can shit on Jews, err I mean Zionists and feel good about themselves.

    The oppressor narrative is pretty hilarious when you put it into the context of a simple map showing Arab countries vs non Arab countries in the region. Next we’ll start hearing about how those countries all converted without a single drop of blood LMFAO.

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      Being opposed to a LITERAL GENNOCIDE is not Qatari or Iranian propoganda, it is having a simple moral compass.

      Also there is a considerable difrence between Zionists and Jews and if you do not understand that there is a problem

      3rd untill fairly recently Zionism was considered anti-semetic… and it arguably is anti-semetic

      4th I have heard no one say that the conversion to Islam was without wars, are you saying that we need to do a GENOCIDE to get that? really man?

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        You either need to learn what the word literally means or you need to reread the ICJ ruling.

        There’s no genocide happening. If there were, don’t you think the court would have ruled for a ceasefire or a stopage like they did in Ukraine.

        You fallen for the propaganda. You’re not alone, but that doesn’t make you right.

        As for Zionism being anti-Semitic, the majority of the world’s Jews would disagree with you. Zionism The goal of Jews to have self-determination. Israel provides them that. Anyway, you attempt to twist that is taking that definition away from the way it’s understood by the vast majority of non morons in this world.

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          They are unable to irder a cesefire as Hamas is not under their jurisdiction, what they can do, and what they did do is order Isn’treal to stop the genocide and take all mesures to prevent it from happening, that they have.

          I understand what propoganda is, and I understand how you could think I have fallen for it, but what has happened is I know the Deffinition of genocide … and I have Eyes, and Ears, they both fuction, I also have a functioning brain that knows how to process information. I am starting to learn that this is a rare and scarce resource to posess.

          As for the idea being anti-semetic, my claim is 1 that before the end of ww2 the idea of Zionism was heavily linked with Anti-Semitism, and 2) that as far as I can tell that has not changed significantly changed. If you would like Cambridge has an article about how there was a strong link between Zionism Anti-Semitism and Nazism. I have not seen any reason to see this as having changed. Now I apreciate your attack on my charicter and mental state of mind, but if you would like to take up the case of moron with Cambrage I would love to hear it …

          Sources https://assets.cambridge.org/97805218/83924/frontmatter/9780521883924_frontmatter.pdf https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml https://www.icj-cij.org/sites/default/files/case-related/192/192-20240216-pre-01-00-en.pdf

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            They’re able to order Israel to cease operations though and not only did they not do that, they reiterated their right to defend themselves.

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              They did order them to take all measures to cese the genocide, a thing they are blatantly not doing.

              FFS take a second reflect on your suport of genocide and your side of history, and maybe think about opposing genocide

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                I’m good with my position here. I share the ICJ opinion, it’s not a genocide. It could quite easily be one but it’s not and it’s not going to become one. The intent simply isn’t there, and if it were then the 2 million Arabs living in Israel wouldn’t be nearly as comfortable as they are. The Palestinians in Jordan wouldn’t be nearly as comfortable as they are. Unless Gazans have adopted terrorism as a part of their cultural identity, there’s no intent to destroy a people or culture.

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                  Except the ICJ did say it was a genocide, have YOU read their statement, I have provided the opinion of the court to you. You are on the wrong god damn side of history. May John Browns Soul Find you and dispatch with you as he does with the wicked and the opressors.

                  You know when I was younger I wondered how people could let the Holicaust happen, I thank you for answering that question for me.

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                    They absolutely unequivocally did not make that statement LMFAO. They clearly said Israel has an obligation to prevent one, which was already happening.

                    The Holocaust happened because people like you swallowed the bullshit you’re swallowing today. Including the lie this is a Holocaust equivalent FFS.

                    Genocides don’t end when the hostages are released and Hamas lays down their arms. It’s that simple. If Israel keeps pressing once Hamas is gone, I’ll eat my words.