Lvxferre@lemmy.mlM to SNOOcalypse - document, discuss, and promote the downfall of Reddit.@lemmy.mlEnglish · 1 year ago
Lvxferre@lemmy.mlM to SNOOcalypse - document, discuss, and promote the downfall of Reddit.@lemmy.mlEnglish · 1 year ago
The title is a bit clickbaity but the article is worth a read. To keep it short:
- large subreddits stopped protesting
- 1.8k subreddits are still in the dark, but those are rather small
- [from the article] “Though the Reddit team likely caused permanent damage to the platform and its relationship with users, Spez got his way. But that victory might not mean much.”
IMO it was a Pyrrhic victory. Sure, the protests ended, and most users are still stuck in that shithole… but the reputation damage won’t be reversed, Reddit managed to seed its competitors (as this one) with the necessary userbase to make them functional, and odds are that Reddit will keep going in its death spiral. And that doesn’t even take into account the amount of bad press that it generated, that will hurt IPO numbers for sure.
Anybody thinking this whole shindig was a “pyrrhic victory” is deluding themselves. The protest didn’t do shit outside of bringing people to the Fediverse - or rather, Lemmy specifically. Majority of people stop caring about things nowadays as soon as something is over a week old, and clever marketing and abuse of moderator/admin powers can pretty much cover this stuff up. Hell, there were users on the Fediverse that were going back to use Reddit for protesting on r/place - and some of those people were the same kind that went “I am gonna DELETE EVERYTHING OFF OF REDDIT”.
At the end of the day I’m glad I moved off Reddit as my go-to social media because I genuinely got tired of the hivemind on there, but y’all are lying to yourselves if you think this will massively impact Reddit’s IPO or anything else about them in the future - even their reputation. If Reddit crashes and burns, cool and Steve Hoffman got what he deserves after hiring pedophiles and keeping r/jailbait active for as long as it was active. But I wouldn’t be surprised if Reddit chugs along just fine.
I strongly disagree, for four reasons:
Could the moderators get a victory? I don’t think so; I believe that they should’ve scorched earth and migrated. Even then, the revolts did damage against Reddit, that Reddit could go without. Reddit might’ve won the war against the jannies but it didn’t benefit from its own victory, well, that’s a Pyrrhic victory.
Clever marketing could do something but Reddit is not clever. (If Reddit was clever it would’ve killed the 3PAs without a revolt, by boiling some frogs.)
I mentioned this in other threads, but my prediction is that Reddit will neither suddenly crash nor stay alive “just fine”. It’ll slowly go downhill.
In other words, Reddit will turn into Digg.
I am going to quote a wise saying I said on New Digg : “An empty Subreddit has been abandoned, a full subreddit will be abandoned”