Life, uh, finds a way.
M-M-M-M-MONSTER KILL
VEHICULAR MANSLAUGHTER
DEJA VU!
I have been in this place before
*death finds a way.
“life finds a way [to end]” is valid here :)
Came here for this.
Gah, you beat me to it.
Yeah, this only works if the two tracks are farther apart than the trolley’s trucks
The KANSEI-DORIFTO energy generated by the trolley will distort the tracks into an appropriate shape
No they mean flipping between the wheels of one truck
That makes more sense, lol. It would probably just derail and kill everyone then, highly ethical outcome.
Nuh uh
I love how a manga shows the reality of the situation.
I’ve never understood why people have such a hard time with the trolley problem. Obviously, if you pre-emptively move that lone guy over to the rail with the five, you can hit all six at once to maximize your score. Just requires a bit of setup.
Simply hit all six with multi track drifting
Y’all kids and your speedrun strats. Some of us have poor reaction time and need to perform safety setups.
That’s exactly what I think would happen with the derailing technique described here. Plus you might lose A couple in the trolley as well.
Are you this kid?
Or just do whatever you feel like in the moment and then jump in front of the trolley to escape all consequences.
Well sure Batman can beat the trolley problem with prep time.
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Or the trolley potentially carrying dozens of people falls over, killing and injuring more people than would have been otherwise.
Problem EXTRA solved, those jackasses were too lazy to hit the emergency brakes and they can answer to FSM for their crimes.
going over people also soulnds like it would cause a derilment
A train wagon easily weights 20 tonnes and more. If it goes just at 50 kph, it has an impulse of 278.000 kg*m/s. Respectively 278.000 Ns. According to some googling human bones tend to break at around a force of 4.000 N.
Realistically the train is just going to flatten whatever flesh and bones are between the wheel and tracks.
It very well might. But then you have to add the people on the tracks to the death count.
Sir the Trolley has derailed in an Ohio neighborhood spilling vinyl chloride everywhere. Lets light it all on fire to get rid of it.
We did it Patrick; we saved the city!
They did say CONTROLLED derailment…
Frame perfect trolley skip
Might need TAS
what if the trolley running in 88mph?
Then we will see some serious shit!
Then the trolley will fire wheel itself into the future and the people on the tracks will be spared
*burnt
Move the lever at 89mph.
air time
With a bit of luck the debris will catch all the people tied to the tracks.
So now you killed the 10 people that were in the train, congrats.
It’s not going to flip. Tolleys derail all the time (ask people living in Wrocław). They can’t go fast enough to flip. It will just stop after couple of meters.
Yeah, there has never been a single death from a trolley derailment, no sir not a one.
So now we have to check the global statistics and figure out what’s the probability is of someone dying in a derailment and estimate if we should risk it or just let the one guy die. Fun!
15 people ride trams in Wrocław.
The people in the train are the only ones with any power to stop it, but they’re divided between “smash everyone quickly” and “smash everyone slowly” factions.
There’s an old Talaxian expression: “When the road before you splits in two, take the third path.”
That could be misinterpreted to mean “turn around and go back the way you came”
Which would be a valid solution to the trolly problem…
Hmm I feel the urge to tuvix…
That’s a different story all together. In that case, there really were only 2 options and one was clearly morally wrong so Janeway had to do exactly that
Both choices were morally dubious. Tuvok and Nelix wanted to be alive just as much as Tuvix
There’s an old saying in Tennessee (I know it’s in Texas, probably in Tennessee) that says, take the first path, shame on… shame on you. The third path- you can’t get fooled again.
This made me laugh much harder than I’m willing to admit
Seems I’m always looking for that third option.
IRL physical systems there always is, that’s how we got from horses to trains.
So the allegory here is if you’re faced with a systemic lose-lose situation, fuck with the control system.
I don’t believe in a no-win scenario.
- James T. Kirk
I don’t think this person knows what “controlled” means.
You control when it happens.
You’re missing the point. The trolley problem represents a moral dilemma. The question should instead be: is any further derivation of this meme ethical? Is responding in a comment immoral in itself?
Everyone knows what the trolley problem is about. I think it’s you who’s missing the point. Instead of blindly accepting the unacceptable solutions that are offered, come up with your own, better solution.
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A concrete example of this is doctors and hospitals creating guidelines about how to triage care when ICUs were/are full because of unmitigated spread of COVID.
It is definitely an “interesting” phylisophical question to ask:
“If a long term ventilator user comes into the ICU, with the ventilator they own and brought from home, and they are less likely to survive than an otherwise healthy young man who needs a respirator due to COVID infection, is the morally best choice to steal the disabled person’s ventilator (killing them) and use it to save the young man’s life?”
The policy question that should be asked instead, and never really ways, is “How do we make sure that we never get to the point where we have so many people in the ICU from a preventable disease that we run out of respirators and need to start choosing who to let die?”
This is not just a hypothetical question:
Disabled people continue to plead with us for the bare minimum, like requiring doctors who work with immunocompromised patients to wear N95 respirators while treating those patients.
We continue to chose to stack more people on both sets of tracks instead.
My critique of the meme is because it basically says “What if we just never had the ICU full at all?”
But like, much more glib.
Isn’t this comment basically joking? Why is everyone taking it so seriously lol
Too dry, it seems
Or it’ll run on both tracks.
Well yes but actually no
Train has speed momentum, and nobody is thinking about the passengers inside the train
